horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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LTC8K6 said:
I think the police may have been leaking bad info to see what reactions it generated?
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This is what I have been thinking.

The missing 60 seconds was not officially a police statement. It came as a leak. It could have been an intentional lie. If so, they may have the attack on video or parts of it.

Another variation is that Smollett thought there was a little place on the sidewalk where there was no video coverage - but he was wrong. In that little space he does things like scratch his own face or fist-bump the brothers for doing a good job.
 
Marcus said:
He is under arrest for a felony which carries up to 3 years in prison. No telling what the actual sentence will be though. Mail fraud, on the other hand, can be up to 20 years in this situation, if I were him I would be worried.
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But just think what he can do for the prison's amateur-dramatics society once he's locked away...

Beautiful, Bubba, make us feel your anguish at eating your aunt Edna, we need to understand the motivation behind it. Now, go!
 
Marcus said:
He is under arrest for a felony which carries up to 3 years in prison. No telling what the actual sentence will be though. Mail fraud, on the other hand, can be up to 20 years in this situation, if I were him I would be worried.
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He can be billed for the cost of the investigation too.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I agree.

It's clear in the report that the attackers are white, even though it is not specifically noted.
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Tell me why they can't be racist, homophobic, Trump-supporting Mexicans. Is it because such a beast does not exist on this planet?
 
Marcus said:
Mail fraud, on the other hand, can be up to 20 years in this situation, if I were him I would be worried.
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When using the mail to threaten:

20 Years is for threats to kidnap, or demand ransom, or threats to injure a judge.

5 Years is for threats to injure. (The picture of the noose would imply that)

Two counts, one per letter i'm assuming, total of 10 years possible.

18 U.S. Code § 876. Mailing threatening communications
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(a) Whoever knowingly deposits in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service or knowingly causes to be delivered by the Postal Service according to the direction thereon, any communication, with or without a name or designating mark subscribed thereto, addressed to any other person, and containing any demand or request for ransom or reward for the release of any kidnapped person, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(b) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person any money or other thing of value, so deposits, or causes to be delivered, as aforesaid, any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of the addressee or of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(c) Whoever knowingly so deposits or causes to be delivered as aforesaid, any communication with or without a name or designating mark subscribed thereto, addressed to any other person and containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of the addressee or of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. If such a communication is addressed to a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official who is covered by section 1114, the individual shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
(d) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person any money or other thing of value, knowingly so deposits or causes to be delivered, as aforesaid, any communication, with or without a name or designating mark subscribed thereto, addressed to any other person and containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another, or the reputation of a deceased person, or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. If such a communication is addressed to a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official who is covered by section 1114, the individual shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
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Marcus said:
He is under arrest for a felony which carries up to 3 years in prison. No telling what the actual sentence will be though. Mail fraud, on the other hand, can be up to 20 years in this situation, if I were him I would be worried.
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Especially mail fraud involving suspicious white powder. He's in big trouble, as they could even charge him with some type of terroristic threat crime.
 
William Parcher said:
Maybe so, but we are still trying to solve puzzles here in our armchairs.

One thing that puzzles me is why didn't Smollett just tell the cops that his attackers were white? Or even say that he's nearly certain they are white? There is a place on the report where you can type in the race. How simple it would be to type "white". But no, there is nothing there.

I don't think it's left blank because it's obvious that they are going to be white. I think it's blank because Smollett said that he could not identify the race.
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yet led people to believe they were white by the way he phrased his gma answer. if he didn't know, how could he have said anything?
 
Travis said:
Yes, it is weird that we have people that automatically disbelieve an attack on a black man while simultaneously calling for the resignation of a governor, over racism, who is demonstrably not currently racist.


It is the upside down Doublethink like this that let us know we slid into the darkest of timelines.
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Indeed. And yet, look at how things turned out.
 
Marcus said:
I was a bit disappointed when the police superintendent said he thought Jussie should apologize and pay a big fine rather than serve jail time.
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yeah. leaves door open for other felons to expect the same. not sure that's a good precedent.
 
I also wonder if there will be some other federal crimes tacked on, for example solicitation of the felony: Mailing threatening Communications

18 U.S. Code § 373. Solicitation to commit a crime of violence
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(a) Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct, shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half of the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the crime solicited, or both; or if the crime solicited is punishable by life imprisonment or death, shall be imprisoned for not more than twenty years.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to a prosecution under this section that, under circumstances manifesting a voluntary and complete renunciation of his criminal intent, the defendant prevented the commission of the crime solicited. A renunciation is not “voluntary and complete” if it is motivated in whole or in part by a decision to postpone the commission of the crime until another time or to substitute another victim or another but similar objective. If the defendant raises the affirmative defense at trial, the defendant has the burden of proving the defense by a preponderance of the evidence.
(c) It is not a defense to a prosecution under this section that the person solicited could not be convicted of the crime because he lacked the state of mind required for its commission, because he was incompetent or irresponsible, or because he is immune from prosecution or is not subject to prosecution.
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Whip said:
yeah. leaves door open for other felons to expect the same. not sure that's a good precedent.
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Fortunately the police superintendent is not the one who decides what charges to file.

Also, I doubt that Smollett will ever apologize or admit that he fabricated this, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
 
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