Hokulele - kurious_kathy Book Challenge

[Hokulele]

As to why it's wrong to question God's sovereignty, it just is.

That isn't an answer.

 

[joobz]

What I find so amazing about God is even though he is way smarter than we can even imagine or relate to, he reveals himself to those of us who are humble and as simple children. Can't you see the beauty in that?

No. In fact I think that idea is horrible and detestable. You are saying that god wants us to be dumb and blindly obedient. This concept completely contradicts the whole free will argument.

God always wanted it simple we are the ones who try to complicate everything in just about every way we can.

who was the one who had to prove job's love?

I know intellectuals have a different mind set than I do but can't you simplify the way you think about some things? What if that is all you need to do to understand God, be as a child and go to him?

There is nothing complicated about this.
God made job suffer to prove his love.
If I make my child suffer to prove his love for me, I'd be an evil father.
Therefore God is like an evil father.

 

[Elizabeth I]

I am not ready yet on your book but hope to start commenting soon. We have had a lot of things going on around here the past few days.

And that's two, or is it three? evasions so far. KK, why don't you just admit that you have no intention of reading Hokulele's book, put your hands over your ears, and go, "LalalalalalalaIcan'thearyoulalalalalala"?

As to why it's wrong to question God's sovereignty, it just is.

"As to why it's wrong to question if the earth goes around the sun, it just is."

"As to why it's wrong to question if the moon is green cheese, it just is."

"As to why it's wrong to question Aristotle's statement that the brain exists to cool the blood, it just is."

Nothing "just is." That's the fallback position and opinion of a wilfully ignorant person.

He's God and has the right to do with his creation as he sees fit. Why did he flood the earth the first time? because people had gotten so evil. And as far as I can see if these were the days of Noah he would be loading the ark about right now.

Come to think of it, if the world is so sinful, where IS that flood about now? Did God quit paying attention? He was certainly not too busy to micromanage everybody and everything in the OT. What's up with him these days?

 

[joobz]

If I thought you would ever read or respond to anything I've ever posted I would point out that your life is INFINITELY better because all these "smart" people have dedicated their lives to innovation rather than sitting in a circle with vapid grins on their faces babbling about Jesus.

You should go join the Amish if you hate what the "smart" folks do so much.

Amusing to think that she's using a computer developed by man, connected to a vast computer network created by man, posting on a public forum dedicated to rationality to tell us that we're too uppity with our intelligence and should recognize the wonders of her myth.

 

[Seanrmr]

And that's two, or is it three? evasions so far.
Come to think of it, if the world is so sinful, where IS that flood about now? Did God quit paying attention? He was certainly not too busy to micromanage everybody and everything in the OT. What's up with him these days.

Too many Iron chariots around the place he hates those things.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Too many Iron chariots around the place he hates those things.

I thought it was the Wee Folk who hated cold iron?

 

[Edges]

As to why it's wrong to question God's sovereignty, it just is.

"It just is"? Is that really the best answer you can come up with? If it is, you really shouldn't be surprised that people aren't converting to your religion based on your words.

 

[Chupacabras]

And as far as I can see if these were the days of Noah he would be loading the ark about right now.

That sure sounds to me like questioning your own idol's authority.

 

[MIKILLINI]

That isn't an answer.

Hokulele, I believe these are the usual non-answers you will continue receiving
from K_K.
She's way to deep in the "who are we to question Gods sovereignty?" mantra and doesn't want to alienate her best "friend" Jesus by questioning god's wisdom or existence.

 

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

Lucifer was the very first to rebel along with his fallen angels. Who do you think hell was originally created for?

The reason I am here sharing Christ and my testimony of the truth of the gospel, is that I am hoping more can be saved from such a horrible eternity!

Neither of which has absolutely anything to do with the statement I made. I'm especially curious to hear what you have to say concerning my statements regarding the logically contradictory nature of Adam & Eve.

So many contradictory statements here.First off, Adam and Eve clearly were not perfect beings without sin. If they were then they would not have disobeyed God a being who was perfect and without sin. There are a few possibilities here.

1) God deliberately made Adam and Eve flawed. If this is the case then the bible is wrong about them and is not infallible and the whole creation myth of Christianity is thrown into serious question.

2) God is incapable of creating a being who is perfect and flawless, indicating that God is not perfect and flawless.

3) Adam and Eve were perfect and flawless, meaning their decision to eat of the fruit was the right decision. Meaning they were superior to God who told them not to eat it.

Looking for an answer here K_K.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

I know intellectuals have a different mind set than I do but can't you simplify the way you think about some things? What if that is all you need to do to understand God, be as a child and go to him?

Does the fact you have to stop thinking about things to accept god not set off alarm bells for you?

 

[Flo]

I am not ready yet on your book but hope to start commenting soon. We have had a lot of things going on around here the past few days.

Enough with the excuses and evasions, spend less time preaching in answer to other questions and read the book !

 

[tsig]

I get more upset at Satan for what happened to Jobs first wife and family. God allowed it but only he truly knows why. Who are we to question Gods sovereignty?

And how the heck can you not hold the person responsible that used the knife? That's clearly twisted thinking each person must take responsibility for their own actions as none of us are innocent of wrong doing in Gods eyes. No one will get out of that one! The only way to not stand Gods ultimate judgement is through Christs forgiveness.

It's not the sovereignty we're questioning but his sanity.

 

[fromdownunder]

"Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand and Jesus died so you don't have to! Die once, Live Twice!!

Poor, poor Kathy. So frightened by life. So frightened that one day you will be worm food just like all of us.

Just stop trying to be an evangilist, because you are lousy at it. just keep living in your own dream world, and you can become all warm and fuzzy, thinking that one of these days you can be with your God forever. Because as a person trying to "convert" others, you would be better off saying "do you want fries with that 'Burger and coke?"

Norm

 

[Paulhoff]

I just ordered this Video at my local library,

http://www.shoppbs.org/sm-pbs-buy-t...ary-god-on-trial-dvd-on-http--pi-3333838.html

I've heard about the trail years ago, can't what to see the movie.

Just guess who loses the trial KK.

Paul

 

[joobz]

Does the fact you have to stop thinking about things to accept god not set off alarm bells for you?

you're asking a question -- that requires thinking -- to a person who stated that not thinking is better than thinking.

Don't expect a well thought out answer.

 

[GeeMack]

What I find so amazing about God is even though he is way smarter than we can even imagine or relate to, he reveals himself to those of us who are humble and as simple children. Can't you see the beauty in that? God always wanted it simple we are the ones who try to complicate everything in just about every way we can.

I know intellectuals have a different mind set than I do but can't you simplify the way you think about some things? What if that is all you need to do to understand God, be as a child and go to him?

As expected, you didn't even remotely address my comment. You previously said you're here proselytizing hoping to recruit converts to your cult. I reminded you that these people reading your pleas are typically intelligent, rational people, and that you're being neither rational nor intelligent in your effort. Since you would obviously be more likely to succeed at achieving your goal if you would make a rational and intelligent pitch, don't you think a change of approach is in order?

 

[Louisthe13th]

Verse two:

They stuck me in a cave where I
came back from the dead
even after all those miracles
they just refused to see
ooooooh, ooooh,
omnipotence ain't what it used to be! (c) Louis the 13th

 

[Safe-Keeper]

He's God and has the right to do with his creation as he sees fit. Why did he flood the earth the first time? because people had gotten so evil.

It's disturbing to think that an almighty god really saw no better solution for 'evil' than to murder everyone on the planet.

Especially when you read the OT and discover what trivial things Yahweh considers 'evil'. What horrible atrocities did humans commit that got God so mad at them? Did they laugh at prophets? Gather firewood on the Sabbath? Boil a goat in its mother's milk?

 

[Moochie]

Good lad! It is a fool who would deny ever learning anything from a comic book. I passed my 8th grade test on The Illiad from reading Classic Comics.

When I was young, my mom bought us The Bible Story Book. It was actually several volumes with lots of bible stories and lots of pictures. It really helped me know what the bible said.

Okay, I confess that I looked at Eve in the Garden of Eden pictures (Pre-fig leaf) quite a lot.

They tried to sanitize it, but being what it is, there were a number of pretty grisly scenes for a young kid. They didn't show Elisha's bear actually mauling the kids who taunted him for his bald head, but they did show it chasing them, and it was drooling.

I loved the Classic series. Along with The Phantom among my favorites.


M.