Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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Bogative said:
I can't say with any certainty if it was from the .gov address or Clinton's private server. She reported live on the air and I haven't been able to find a recording of it as of yet. I'll try to find a transcript and post it because I can't remember that specific detail now.

ETA: this segment aired right after Catherine Herridge's report and Megan Kelly says that they came from Clinton's email server.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5191873462001/?playlist_id=2694949842001#sp=show-clips
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I wasn't clear. The private server was a substitute for the .gov address. But you can send .gov emails out correct? It isn't the classified server.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I wasn't clear. The private server was a substitute for the .gov address. But you can send .gov emails out correct? It isn't the classified server.
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Yes, you can send .gov emails out. My dad works for an intelligence agency and he sometimes sends me emails from his unclassified work account.
 
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Hugh Hewitt at least is not a hypocrite.
On MSNBC with Steve Kornacki:

KORNACKI: Hugh Hewitt, between now and the election, what more do you think James Comey owes the public? What specifically should he be saying between now and the election?

HEWITT: Only if there is a smoking gun do I think he ought to come forward. An exoneration would be wildly viewed as rigged.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hugh-hewitt-fbi-emails_us_5818a795e4b0990edc337db0
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This election is surreal.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Outlook will archive automatically and keeps everything in a local PST file.
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Yes, I understand that as it was covered previously. I thought it was stated that she was backing up her yahoo account. I didn't realize it had anything at all to do with Outlook in the slightest. It seems to have been my oversight however.

quadraginta said:
Using MS Live the process was selecting the folders desired and then choosing the "Archive" option.

It didn't really seem all that involved, and unless you are counting the Live email client as a third party then there wasn't any other software involved. Although I think the process was much the same when on-line.

Since its been discontinued the only way to access MS accounts through Microsoft without paying for MS Office is on-line*, and as nearly as I can tell the archiving process is still the same.

Maybe other email arrangements are harder.

(*: I've tried a few alternative public domain email clients, and although they seem to be mostly serviceable they all seem to have small but irritating issues which have prevented me from wanting to use them regularly.)
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In my yahoo account, which is just a garbage account for **** my wife signs up for, the archive really doesn't do anything. It certainly doesn't save anything to my hard drive. Clicking an email and hitting "archive" just moves it to a folder that is literally called "archive". It puts nothing on my physical computer or hard drive at all. If I'm missing something, by all means let me know, but I've never personally backed up emails from a hotmail, gmail, yahoo account to my hard drive. I've never had any need to do that at all I guess.
 
plague311 said:
Yes, I understand that as it was covered previously. I thought it was stated that she was backing up her yahoo account. I didn't realize it had anything at all to do with Outlook in the slightest. It seems to have been my oversight however.



In my yahoo account, which is just a garbage account for **** my wife signs up for, the archive really doesn't do anything. It certainly doesn't save anything to my hard drive. Clicking an email and hitting "archive" just moves it to a folder that is literally called "archive". It puts nothing on my physical computer or hard drive at all. If I'm missing something, by all means let me know, but I've never personally backed up emails from a hotmail, gmail, yahoo account to my hard drive. I've never had any need to do that at all I guess.
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She was printing some of these emails. Is that easier to do in Outlook? I have no idea. I don't use Outlook, print emails, or have a Yahoo email account.
 
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Dave Rogers said:
Dr. Keith said:
I took W.D. Clinger's post as a juxtaposition of Comey's comments about Clinton from the summer. One that deserves more recognition than it has been given, in fact.
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That was rather the point I was trying to make as well. Comey's and Clinton's positions in this seem remarkably similar.
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Yes, indeed. By saying pretty much the same thing, with less subtlety, I was acknowledging the point first made here by Dave Rogers.
 
Here's a recent rap song about Danney Williams, Bill's at-least-self-proclaimed black son. It is said that he'll hold a "bombshell" press conference later today.

 
Tony Stark said:
She was printing some of these emails. Is that easier to do in Outlook? I have no idea. I don't use Outlook, print emails, or have a Yahoo email account.
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I can't honestly answer that because I'm not sure what version of everything she was using. It's not complicated for me to print off emails in Outlook, but I use the web app and Office 365 through my house. It's as easy as clicking the "options" button and going to print. That's it.

I've never printed via yahoo, so I'm not familiar with the printing.
 
plague311 said:
In my yahoo account, which is just a garbage account for **** my wife signs up for, the archive really doesn't do anything. It certainly doesn't save anything to my hard drive. Clicking an email and hitting "archive" just moves it to a folder that is literally called "archive". It puts nothing on my physical computer or hard drive at all. If I'm missing something, by all means let me know, but I've never personally backed up emails from a hotmail, gmail, yahoo account to my hard drive. I've never had any need to do that at all I guess.
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I have avoided MS software for the better part of a decade as much as possible, but I thought it was possible to have all of your email go through Outlook, including Yahoo accounts, if you set it up that way. I could be wrong and it probably depends on the version of Outlook being used.
 
The funny thing about Hillary is this: my gut reaction to her is that she doesn't have a lot of charisma, doesn't inspire trust or confidence from me, and appears to be the typical establishment politician, one with apparent ties to Wall Street.

But with all the brouhaha the Republicans have stirred up about her, and the consistent finding that there's no fire to the smoke, those fools have actually managed to turn me around in her favour. Aside for the possible connections to Wall Street, she appears straighter than most!
 
plague311 said:
Yes, I understand that as it was covered previously. I thought it was stated that she was backing up her yahoo account. I didn't realize it had anything at all to do with Outlook in the slightest. It seems to have been my oversight however.



In my yahoo account, which is just a garbage account for **** my wife signs up for, the archive really doesn't do anything. It certainly doesn't save anything to my hard drive. Clicking an email and hitting "archive" just moves it to a folder that is literally called "archive". It puts nothing on my physical computer or hard drive at all. If I'm missing something, by all means let me know, but I've never personally backed up emails from a hotmail, gmail, yahoo account to my hard drive. I've never had any need to do that at all I guess.
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Well, you're right. It turns out that that is all "Archive" does in Outlook too. At least now. It's been a long time since I bothered backing up email to my hard drive, so I'm behind the times. I had done it with Live Mail, but not anytime recently

And it turns out that it's worse than I thought. Since they discontinued the Live Mail email client the only way to back up email with them is to own (or rent) a working iteration of Outlook (as in MS Office).

Then all you have to do is use the "Export" function, and it will guide you through choosing file type to export to, the email you want to save, and where you want to put it on your hard drive.

But if you are using the Outlook Web service you're **** out of luck, at least as far as getting outlook to do it for you.

It looks like it can be done much the same way without too much trouble if you're using Thunderbird or some other email client.

I'm going to set up Thunderbird again and check that out.
 
Argumemnon said:
The funny thing about Hillary is this: my gut reaction to her is that she doesn't have a lot of charisma, doesn't inspire trust or confidence from me, and appears to be the typical establishment politician, one with apparent ties to Wall Street.

But with all the brouhaha the Republicans have stirred up about her, and the consistent finding that there's no fire to the smoke, those fools have actually managed to turn me around in her favour. Aside for the possible connections to Wall Street, she appears straighter than most!
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That, plus the leaked emails showing her team communicates and is instrumental in shaping, filtering and enabling her influence on the world. Just like they're supposed to do, and just like a White House staff will be expected to do
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Not sure why the need for condescension, but if your position is that "Hillary violated statutes but has been vindicated because intent could not be proved", then I'll agree except for the word vindicated.

I've read repeatedly, and heard from her own lips, that the FBI came to the conclusion she had done nothing wrong. I think that's untrue. They as much as said she was extremely careless and may have violated statutes. And that the decision not to prosecute was based partly on whether she showed simple negligence or gross negligence.

Anyway, let me again recommend the Opening Arguments podcast on the topic for a dive into the matter. I'm hoping flor a follow-up episode soon.
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It's getting tiring hearing Clinton broke the law when Comey very carefully avoided such wording along with avoiding making the charge she lied.

You want Clinton to frame her message differently but people accusing her of being a criminal are unwilling to address their own incorrect framing.

Here's what you said:
"Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."

(bolded mine)

Sounds like rather than saying "she hadn't committed a criminal offence" he felt there was evidence she may have, but chose not to prosecute for other reasons.
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Potential violations that no prosecutor would bring a case for are just what I said, "every violation of a statute is not a criminal violation." I don't even need to pretend there is some mysterious reason for not prosecuting. You don't prosecute because every violation of a statute is not necessarily a criminal violation.

Maybe if Clinton haters weren't framing the matter as a crime Comey should have prosecuted, she could be more nuanced when explaining exactly what Comey actually found.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Hillary made a point there was no evidence that her email server had been hacked, so her "extreme carelessness" or negligence had not been shown to have had any negative effect of National Security. Comey's statement echoed that.

If it turns out that classified documents ended up on Weiner's computer, and that computer showed signs of being hacked, that would surely change some minds as to the seriousness of Hillary's carelessness.

Would it not?
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Where is there even the suggestion Weiner's computer had been hacked?

BTW, none of this would be on Clinton's shoulders, it would be on Huma's.
 
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Argumemnon said:
The funny thing about Hillary is this: my gut reaction to her is that she doesn't have a lot of charisma, doesn't inspire trust or confidence from me, and appears to be the typical establishment politician, one with apparent ties to Wall Street.

But with all the brouhaha the Republicans have stirred up about her, and the consistent finding that there's no fire to the smoke, those fools have actually managed to turn me around in her favour. Aside for the possible connections to Wall Street, she appears straighter than most!
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Same for me.

Had the Republicans actually fielded a good candidate, they might have had a shot at getting my vote.
 
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