Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

[Darat]

I'll take that over a sleazy con man any day of the week.

The description of "a win-at-all-costs trial lawyer" is simply the job description of all "trial lawyer", they are legally obligated to represent their client and their client's instructions to the best of their ability. Not doing so could even lead them to being guilty of malpractice etc.

I blame that pesky constitution you lot have.

 

[Bob001]

How can you continue to post such rubbish when you yourself give links that show you are making things up?

Whether or not the allegations are persuasive, I'm not making anything up.

In a sworn affidavit aiming to coerce a psychiatric evaluation of the sixth-grade victim, Clinton during the case nearly 40 years ago called into question the girl's emotional stability, arguing she had exhibited "a tendency to seek out older men and engage in... fantasizing." She added, citing a child psychology expert that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant, are even more prone to such behavior."

But in the recording, Clinton indicated she believed her client was indeed guilty. Heard laughing, she said the polygraph test he managed to pass "forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/

In her book, Clinton writes that she visited Taylor in the county jail and he “denied the charges against him and insisted that the girl, a distant relative, had made up her story.” Clinton filed a motion to order the 12-year-old girl to get a psychiatric examination. “I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing … [and] that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body,” according to an affidavit filed by Clinton in support of her motion.

Clinton also cited an expert in child psychology who said that “children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant’s, are even more prone to such behavior,” Clinton wrote in her affidavit.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/

 

[Bob001]

The description of "a win-at-all-costs trial lawyer" is simply the job description of all "trial lawyer", they are legally obligated to represent their client and their client's instructions to the best of their ability. Not doing so could even lead them to being guilty of malpractice etc.

I blame that pesky constitution you lot have.

Actually, lawyers are required to accept a code of ethics that prescribes how they will treat clients, adversaries, juries, colleagues and the courts. They are not permitted, for example, to knowingly permit false testimony or present false evidence. As to opposing witnesses:

Canon 18. Treatment of Witnesses and Litigants.

A lawyer should always treat adverse witnesses and suitors with fairness and due consideration, and he should never minister to the malevolence or prejudices of a client in the trial or conduct of a cause. The client cannot be made the keeper of the lawyer’s conscience in professional matters. He has no right to demand that his counsel shall abuse the opposite party or indulge in offensive personalities. Improper speech is not excusable on the ground that it is what the client would say if speaking in his own behalf.

http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/cpr/mrpc/Canons_Ethics.authcheckdam.pdf

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Well, America has a less-than spotless history ; don't you want someone to defend it with all she's got anyway?

Just a different perspective...

 

[caveman1917]

And you don't even have that much chance in this case.

More Americans identify as independents than either as Democrats or Republicans. Yet in the election they all vote for either the Democratic or Republican candidate. Do you have another explanation for this phenomenon that is not that self-fulfilling "realist" argument?

 

[Andy_Ross]

More Americans identify as independents than either as Democrats or Republicans. Yet in the election they all vote for either the Democratic or Republican candidate. Do you have another explanation for this phenomenon that is not that self-fulfilling "realist" argument?

How many people in any country 'identify' as anything other than 'independent'?

 

[malbec]

Well, America has a less-than spotless history ; don't you want someone to defend it with all she's got anyway?

Just a different perspective...

HC's whole life has been dedicated to everything that true US values are supposed to detest .Her criminality , along with her now Parkinsons suffering co -conspirator , seems boundless . I predict that history will mark her as the greatest American mistake of modern times , should she live much longer or be allowed to take office .

 

[catsmate]

face palm.

That's your response to being exposed as a liar?

 

[catsmate]

agree to disagree

So no evidence, as usual, then?

 

[catsmate]

The State Department redacted that document, not Judicial Watch.

And Judicial Watch lied about it.

The amount of disinformation you are spewing in this thread is astonishing.

Un-****linglievable....

Indeed.

 

[catsmate]

FANTASTIC EXAMPLE OF THE RULE OF SO!!!!!

OUTSTANDING!

Refusing to address the point. How typical.

 

[catsmate]

yes that is exactly what the WaPo article and State's lawyer said.

Disk 1: 14,900 from Hillary's servers and other devices
disk 2: classified docs
disk 3 the docs previously turned over to state
additional disks, other people accounts and etc.

although, I do like the idea that the 14,900 is IN ADDITION to the ones Hillary admitted destroying.

I see you've started moving the goalposts.

During "Lawyergate" the Bush administration destroyed 5million emails - where was the Republican outcry there?

Because there's a lot of people utterly deranged on the subject of the Clintons who'll grasp at any straw.

 

[catsmate]

Regarding Hilly's 1970s rape defense job, I gather
<gibber snip>

I know you'll ignore them but here are some facts.

 

[acbytesla]

Exactly. You are still going to vote for her. Dedication

It's not dedication. It's an honest assessment about what is best for the nation.

One candidate has spent a lifetime of helping people and in public service.
The other has spent a lifetime cheating people and looking out for himself.

One fought to make Healthcare a right
The other wants to take it away.

One has fought for equal rights for women
The other says that the best way with women is to treat them like ****.

One has fought for unions and working people.
The other has fought to prevent workers from organizing.

One has a history of fairly consistent stands.
The other has been on both sides of every single issue.

One has an in depth knowledge of both domestic and foreign policy.
The other is TOTALLY CLUELESS.

One has a plan to help working people directly.
The other thinks that helping the rich helps the poor.

There are probably a million more reasons why Hillary is a much better choice than the narcissistic orangutan, but those will do for now.

 

[Belz...]

More Americans identify as independents than either as Democrats or Republicans. Yet in the election they all vote for either the Democratic or Republican candidate. Do you have another explanation for this phenomenon that is not that self-fulfilling "realist" argument?

Yeah: they are not stupid.

 

[acbytesla]

We all understand that lawyers sometimes represent unsavory clients. The allegation against Hillary is that she unjustly claimed that the 12-year-old rape victim was crazy and got the indisputably guilty defendant a light sentence. And of course the larger question is whether a win-at-all-costs trial lawyer is the best person to run a government that must serve all of us.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/

Instead, you want a win at all costs con man?

The ethical thing for any lawyer is to do the best job for his or her client. In fact, they take an oath to do just that. The victim was not subjected to a harsh cross examination and the defendant's sentence was in line with others committing the same crime.

The suggestion that we should dismiss from consideration an extremely qualified candidates from the Presidency for doing her job the way she is required by law to do 40 years prior is ABSURD.

 

[caveman1917]

How many people in any country 'identify' as anything other than 'independent'?

It's about 40% independent and 30% each of Democrat and Republican.

 

[caveman1917]

Yeah: they are not stupid.

Self-fulfilling prophecy of "realistic" it is.

 

[wareyin]

We all understand that lawyers sometimes represent unsavory clients. The allegation against Hillary is that she unjustly claimed that the 12-year-old rape victim was crazy and got the indisputably guilty defendant a light sentence. And of course the larger question is whether a win-at-all-costs trial lawyer is the best person to run a government that must serve all of us.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/

You consider a lawyer defending a client against rape charges who gets her client to plead guilty to be "winning"?

 

[acbytesla]

HC's whole life has been dedicated to everything that true US values are supposed to detest .Her criminality , along with her now Parkinsons suffering co -conspirator , seems boundless . I predict that history will mark her as the greatest American mistake of modern times , should she live much longer or be allowed to take office .

Actually, I believe that Hillary Clinton's entire life has been about upholding TRUE American values and laws. I also believe that she will be a great President. Certainly better than a narcissistic lying cheating stealing self absorbed con man.

But hey, that's just me. And probably the electoral college in December.