Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

[wareyin]

Thanks, Saw snopes earlier.

Just want to know if true as in the one video below...whether the girl was in a coma five days and barren for life.

This 3 min video claims all that and edits the audio to spin it.
https://www.youtube. dot com/embed/BdNHf1g4ivA

This six min video has complete audio with out spin.

https://www.youtube. dot com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4
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Sorry, argument by YouTube video, even if you had working links, is not convincing. No, the girl was not in a coma because of the rape, as she walked into the emergency room at 4:50am the morning after, according to snopes. The claim of being barren also seems to be a new spin, with no reports before this year.



Eta: Even if the girl became barren, what does that have to do with Clinton being forced to defend the man who pled guilty to the rape?

 

[Tero]

Of course! She should not have plea bargained with her client so the guy would get the maximum years from a jury! Isn't that what lawyers are for?

 

[Bubba]

Sorry, argument by YouTube video, even if you had working links, is not convincing.

The video wold be same as transcript, but extra with voice inflection, laughter etc.

No, the girl was not in a coma because of the rape, as she walked into the emergency room at 4:50am the morning after, according to snopes. The claim of being barren also seems to be a new spin, with no reports before this year.

OK thanks.

Eta: Even if the girl became barren, what does that have to do with Clinton being forced to defend the man who pled guilty to the rape?

"forced" ?

Not really even if public defender but not actually.

"Roped in" is more like it. Try retract your "forced', for accuracy please.

 

[Bubba]

Sorry, argument by YouTube video, even if you had working links, is not convincing.

For anyone actually interested in hearing Hillary laugh and speak about her rape case...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4


Or:

do a little pasting with

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4

 

[wareyin]

"forced" ?

Not really even if public defender but not actually.

"Roped in" is more like it. Try retract your "forced', for accuracy please.

You don't consider being ordered to do something against your will to be "forced?"

 

[Bubba]

You don't consider being ordered to do something against your will to be "forced?"

I see but...

Not where declining or resigning would be not forced.

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[acbytesla]

I see but...

Not where declining or resigning would be not forced.

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It doesn't work that way. A judge assigns you a case. You do it. A judge could hold her in contempt of court if she refused. She could even be disbarred. Also, you should keep in mind she was trying to set up free or low cost legal aid. Most defendants are going to be guilty whether they have money or not. What is universally true In our system is that every defendant is entitled to a vigorous competent defense, but one is not likely to get one if you don't have money. Is Hillary supposed to not do her job?

 

[pgwenthold]

It makes me think of the movie "From the Hip" about the lawyer Stormy Weathers, who uses courtroom theatrics to win his first case, but then gets stuck having to defend a client in a murder case who he knows is guilty. The defendant expects him to defend him to the best of his ability, and to use all the theatrics he is famous for.

His conscience gets to him, and in the end, he represents the guy, but ends up getting him to confess in court, and so gets Stormy off the hook.

According to IMDB, it was a movie starring Judd Nelson in 1987, but I could swear I saw a version of it in high school, which would have been 86 or before. I may be misremembering that, but I can't imagine where else I might have seen it. I very clearly remember it, though, because I was able to look up the name Stormy Weathers.

 

[applecorped]

this thread is filled with super predators

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I will ask you this again: do you know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is? Hint: it doesn't just mean looking at how candidates poll, but at the reason behind them polling at the numbers they do.

Yes yes, we all know what you are saying. The problem you have is a self-fulfilling prophecy has to have a snowball's chance in hell of causing itself. And you don't even have that much chance in this case.

a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true

Nothing anyone posts (or doesn't post) telling third party voters they are wasting their time will have an impact on Stein's or Johnson's chance of winning the election.

I predict you'll be like Trump after he loses, blaming a rigged election. In your case you'll be blaming the people who self-fulfilled the prophesy for the third parties' dismal vote counts.

 

[Dog Town]

this thread is filled with super predators

That oddly enough, get reported! Nothing seems to happen! I have a catalogue...
This forum used to be different! Sad really...

 

[PhantomWolf]

Regarding Hilly's 1970s rape defense job, I gather


* the 1980s Ray Reed/Hillary interview is real.
* its true the (then 12 yr old, 1970s rape victim) recently said Hillary ruined her life.
* Hilly's joke about lie detectors indicated she knew the guy was guilty

(there are audio clips on youtube with Hilly laughing about how she bluffed the prosecutor into lowering charges by claiming evidence she did not have)

Is it also true the 12 yr old rape victim was battered and in a coma for 5 days, as one of the videos asserts?
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https://www.youtube dot com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4
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Are you suggesting that if the crime is considered heinous enough that Defense lawyers should not do everything within their ability and the law to defend their client?

 

[plague311]

It doesn't work that way. A judge assigns you a case. You do it. A judge could hold her in contempt of court if she refused. She could even be disbarred. Also, you should keep in mind she was trying to set up free or low cost legal aid. Most defendants are going to be guilty whether they have money or not. What is universally true In our system is that every defendant is entitled to a vigorous competent defense, but one is not likely to get one if you don't have money. Is Hillary supposed to not do her job?

Not to belabor the point, but didn't a judge just force a mayor to represent an indigent client? It was something to that effect but my googlefu is currently weak.

 

[KDLarsen]

Not to belabor the point, but didn't a judge just force a mayor to represent an indigent client? It was something to that effect but my googlefu is currently weak.

That'd be the governor of Missouri, Jay Nixon. Per Missouri law, any memeber of the state bar association can be named a public defender, so the head of Missouri's public defenders made him one, in order to protest major cuts to the programme.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

For anyone actually interested in hearing Hillary laugh and speak about her rape case...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4


Or:

do a little pasting with

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4

Oh for pity's sake, what right wing crap are you listening to? This is so old and addressed ad nauseum. You really should try to keep up.

 

[Noztradamus]

... The good news is in choosing the sleaziest most dishonest candidate in history nobody is going to give a damn about a bunch of emails that offer nothing.

Exactly. You are still going to vote for her. Dedication

 

[Bob001]

Not to belabor the point, but didn't a judge just force a mayor to represent an indigent client? It was something to that effect but my googlefu is currently weak.

Not a judge. The director of the Missouri public defenders service drafted the governor after its budget was cut:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/when-the-governor-is-your-lawyer/494453/

 

[Bob001]

It doesn't work that way. A judge assigns you a case. You do it. A judge could hold her in contempt of court if she refused. She could even be disbarred. Also, you should keep in mind she was trying to set up free or low cost legal aid. Most defendants are going to be guilty whether they have money or not. What is universally true In our system is that every defendant is entitled to a vigorous competent defense, but one is not likely to get one if you don't have money. Is Hillary supposed to not do her job?

We all understand that lawyers sometimes represent unsavory clients. The allegation against Hillary is that she unjustly claimed that the 12-year-old rape victim was crazy and got the indisputably guilty defendant a light sentence. And of course the larger question is whether a win-at-all-costs trial lawyer is the best person to run a government that must serve all of us.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/

 

[Travis]

We all understand that lawyers sometimes represent unsavory clients. The allegation against Hillary is that she unjustly claimed that the 12-year-old rape victim was crazy and got the indisputably guilty defendant a light sentence. And of course the larger question is whether a win-at-all-costs trial lawyer is the best person to run a government that must serve all of us.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/

I'll take that over a sleazy con man any day of the week.

 

[Darat]

We all understand that lawyers sometimes represent unsavory clients. The allegation against Hillary is that she unjustly claimed that the 12-year-old rape victim was crazy and got the indisputably guilty defendant a light sentence. And of course the larger question is whether a win-at-all-costs trial lawyer is the best person to run a government that must serve all of us.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/

How can you continue to post such rubbish when you yourself give links that show you are making things up?