Herman Cain leads by 20 points!

SezMe said:
As I understand it, RandFan, he "suspended" his campaign in order to allow him to continue fund raising, presumably to pay off existing debt or to fund other campaign-related activities. If he closed his campaign, those activities would no longer be allowed. So the "suspension" is just a legal formality.
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Yeah, shades of Ross Perot.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Any chance that he could be tapped as a VP contender, do you think?
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I don't see it. The only purpose a Cain VP nomination serves is to shore up the far right flank - to get them out to vote. Now, the only candidate who would need such a shoring up is Romney. But Romney, whatever his faults, is no idiot and he can see that if he picked Cain, the Dems would run his Libya interview on an endless loop.

If the nominee is someone other than Romney, then the candidate already has the wingnuts already sewed up and what he/she(?) needs is to mollify the center. Cain doesn't do that by any stretch of the imagination.

Shorter answer: Cain the politician is history.
 
SezMe said:
I don't see it. The only purpose a Cain VP nomination serves is to shore up the far right flank - to get them out to vote. Now, the only candidate who would need such a shoring up is Romney. But Romney, whatever his faults, is no idiot and he can see that if he picked Cain, the Dems would run his Libya interview on an endless loop.

If the nominee is someone other than Romney, then the candidate already has the wingnuts already sewed up and what he/she(?) needs is to mollify the center. Cain doesn't do that by any stretch of the imagination.

Shorter answer: Cain the politician is history.
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To shore up the right, Romney should pick Senator Rand Paul as his VP choice.
 
MaGZ said:
To shore up the right, Romney should pick Senator Rand Paul as his VP choice.
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Dang! That actually makes sense.

And it would be such an easy target in November of 2012.

A drooling vulture who wants your home in foreclosure and a pampered yahoo who thinks old people aren't working hard enough.

Bleedin' brilliant.
 
If it weren't so sad, this crop of republicans would be funny. I'll vote for Romney on the basis he used to be my Governor. Not like he's gonna win or anything.
 
Tricky said:
Rumor has it that he will soon endorse Gingrich. I still find that odd, since Newt is the ultimate Washington insider and Cain was adamantly anti-establishment. Still, they're both from Georgia...
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Cain probably realizes that Newt is the last best hope for a non-Romney. It's the only endorsement that makes sense if Cain wishes to be at all relevant.
 
Tricky said:
Rumor has it that he will soon endorse Gingrich. I still find that odd, since Newt is the ultimate Washington insider and Cain was adamantly anti-establishment. Still, they're both from Georgia...
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They've actually been friends a while. They both travel in Neal Boortz's circle and have been active in GA Republican politics.

(And really, has the whole "insider"/"outsider" line of campaign-speak been anything other than hand-waving horsecrap?)
 
I would have thought Cain would have thrown his votes to someone more on the outside, like Ron Paul. However, it then occurred to me that Cain was largely funded by the Koch brothers. Thus, it would be natural to follow the money to Newt.

Using the last set of polls from my usual site, if Cain's 14% is added to Gingrich's 26%, Newt has a commanding 40%. Of course, all this could change in the primaries.
 
The prospect of Cain endorsing Gingrich has got to have the Romney camp crapping in their pants. Wow.
 
TimCallahan said:
I would have thought Cain would have thrown his votes to someone more on the outside, like Ron Paul. However, it then occurred to me that Cain was largely funded by the Koch brothers. Thus, it would be natural to follow the money to Newt.
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There is, however, the possibility that the religious whackadoodles among Cain's supporters will go to one of the other religous whackadoodle candidates. Some will go to Perry or Bachmann because they see Newt for the sleazebag he is, or because he is Catholic.
 
Tricky said:
Rumor has it that he will soon endorse Gingrich. I still find that odd, since Newt is the ultimate Washington insider and Cain was adamantly anti-establishment. Still, they're both from Georgia...
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I assume you mean he wanted to portray himself as anti-establishment. From what I recall he chaired the federal reserve in Kansas and was a Washington Lobbyist for about a decade.
 
Once again, from my usual source, here's the average of the latest Republican polls. The numbers to the right are the previous poll:

Gingrich 27.5% - 2.6.6
Romney 20.0 - 20.4
Cain 13.8 - 14.0
Paul 8.0 - 8.0
Perry 7.3 - 7.2
Bachmann 4.3 - 4.6
Santorum 2.8 - 2.6
Huntsman 2.3 - 2.5
undecided 14.0 - 14.9

In other words, Gingrich's lead over Romney is widening; Cain apparently hasn't thrown his support to Gingrich; Paul remains the same; and Perry may have benefited slightly from Cain "suspending" his election bid.
 
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TimCallahan said:
Gingrich 27.5% - 2.6.6
Romney 20.0 - 20.4
Cain 13.8 - 14.0
Paul 8.0 - 8.0
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The professional odds-makers are still listing Mr. Romney as the favorite but Mr. Gingrich is a very close second. Mr. Paul is a distant third with most putting him at 12 or 14 to 1.
 
Ladewig said:
The professional odds-makers are still listing Mr. Romney as the favorite but Mr. Gingrich is a very close second. Mr. Paul is a distant third with most putting him at 12 or 14 to 1.
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Link?

This story from Politico seems to indicate that Gingrich is starting to pull away from the pack, most especially ahead of Romney by a considerable amount...

... Gingrich leads by a wide margin in Iowa, the first state to vote on Jan. 3, and South Carolina, the first state to vote in the South. In Florida, the biggest January prize, one recent poll puts him ahead by a runaway margin. In the key primary that follows Iowa, New Hampshire, the former House speaker is lodged in second place.
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So if Gingrich takes Iowa, South Carolina, AND Florida - with a strong 2nd place showing in New Hampshire - I don't see how Romney has a chance. Ah well, there's a few weeks yet to go; we'll see what happens.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Link?
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http://www.oddschecker.com/specials...us-presidential-election/republican-candidate

This story from Politico seems to indicate that Gingrich is starting to pull away from the pack, most especially ahead of Romney by a considerable amount...
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I don't doubt the accuracy of the polls. However just because someone is popular today does not mean he will be popular four weeks from now. The odds-makers are predicting the outcome of the nomination.


So if Gingrich takes Iowa, South Carolina, AND Florida - with a strong 2nd place showing in New Hampshire - I don't see how Romney has a chance. Ah well, there's a few weeks yet to go; we'll see what happens.
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I agree. If Mr. Gingrich takes Iowa, South Carolina, AND Florida...
 
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MattusMaximus said:
The prospect of Cain endorsing Gingrich has got to have the Romney camp crapping in their pants. Wow.
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I'd say the fact Romney can't poll higher than mid-20s already has them crapping their pants.
 
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Gingrich might not be in some important primaries. Seems there are filings not made on time in at least one, Missouri, and no real prospect of being able to file in a couple others according to what I heard on the radio today.
 
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