Has Pdoh gone stark raving sane?

[Dog Town]

Now this shows he is still out there. The dating post is less than six months old. It was new when found. Gravy, I believe, pointed this out at the time.

Hows this for scary...they did a search on me and found a pic id put on dating sites a couple of years ago. One of these lunatics at jref now has my pic as his avatar. JREF refuse to remove it. Isuppose im relatively safe being in england but its creepy in the extreme

I always knew it was him. LMFAO!

 

[Brainache]

I agree with UK Dave here, although I can see the point David Wong makes. The thing is we are human beings and therefore we react to things emotionally. We can't just have a forum where there is nothing but facts. That would be not only boring, but counter productive. Noone would read it(well maybe people who had to, for research or something).

I think when people like the Truthers put forward ridiculous ideas they deserve to be ridiculed.

I don't think we should go completely Ad Hom, but demonstrating the absurdity of an argument is a useful tool in exposing the Truthers for what they are. Plus I don't see how it would be possible to discuss the arguments of say, Killtown without discussing the boy himself.

So in this little debate of Daves, I have to side with the Pom.

 

[Oliver]

I don't know who this guy is. But I know the real Pete Doherty (I assume that's where he got his screen name) is a crack addict punk rocker.

Huh? I thought his forename is Paul.

 

[TOHMS]

Nah, it's Pete Doherty. Actually has put out some pretty decent music. This Pdoherty character could be Paul, but I'm pretty sure he took his name from Pete Doherty. At least that's what I accused him of at LC.

 

[Brainache]

Nah, it's Pete Doherty. Actually has put out some pretty decent music. This Pdoherty character could be Paul, but I'm pretty sure he took his name from Pete Doherty. At least that's what I accused him of at LC.

Sombody posted his Uni details the other day. I didn't read them coz I don't care, but I wish I could remember which thread I saw them in. Might even be this one.

 

[Dog Town]

Nah, it's Pete Doherty. Actually has put out some pretty decent music. This Pdoherty character could be Paul, but I'm pretty sure he took his name from Pete Doherty. At least that's what I accused him of at LC.

You are new to the game! He has always claimed to be Paul. He even posted, at dating sites, with a pic. Quite humorous, indeed!

 

[Brainache]

Maybe Pete Doherty is PDoh's mischievous little brother. Always getting up to crazy hijinks with his wacky girlfriend and playing pranks on his ugly big bro..

 

[Orphia Nay]

Woah, dudes, wouldn't it be like far out if Pdoherty is Pete Doherty?



Bollocks, in ye olde English terminology.

 

[Orphia Nay]

I personally hate it every time a thread gets started here with a name in the subject. As in, "Look what Killtown's saying now!" or "That crazy 911TruthSword is at it again!"

It makes all this look like it's more a battle between personalities than an exercise in critical thinking, an internet flame war rather than a cold, logical filtering of the truth from B.S. that benefits everyone.

It would be great if this forum could serve as a sort of repository of clean, well thought-out rebuttals to each idiotic claim for people to find who are curious (search engines lead lots of readers here, after all). But emotion gets the best of us and instead what they find is threads that are 20% fact finding and 80% frustruation and snide insults thrown back and forth.

I totally understand why; people like killtown deserve our insults. But you have to admit it does very little to advance the cause of truth and critical thinking.

David, I've quoted your 9/11 pages numerous times here and elsewhere, and I have to say, I agree and disagree, sympathetically.

Your pages
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html
lay waste to Dylan Avery's waste of internet space. They are based upon an attack on him... in that you have insulted him with truth and critical thinking in regards his beliefs.

I disagree. We actually provide a valuable public service by highlighting the absurd, inane, paranoid rants which some indulgein over at LCF.

Even if it doesn't make the posters stop and think, it probably does make the mods and admins more sensitive about allowing the more vile rants to remain.

I liken it to the effect this forum (and others) has on the actions of the 'truthers'.

Would Avery have apologised for insulting the victims of 9/11 if it hadn't been criticised by more rational thinkers?

Would Bermas have backpedalled so embarassingly regarding the complicity of the FDNY if it hadn't been highlighted by members of this forum?

Similarily, it was only the outcry over a holocaust denier being associated with their forthcoming little 'truther' conference which resulted in him being demoted to coffee boy. Without that outcry, produced again by critical thinkers, would they have been bothered by his extremist views?

The 'truthers' in my opinion, believed the internet was going to be THEIR playground and have been rather surprised to find that they cannot in fact produce websites regarding other peoples tragedies without criticism, and they cannot produce their little internet videos full of lies without someone else producing another version highlighting those lies.

And, on the subject of the insane person known as pdoherty, how easy his life would have been if he had been able to make his wild claims about his flip flopping without someone here having archived his previous embarassing rants?

So, no, I don't think we should stop posting and ridiculing those in the truth movement.... for their own good.

I agree, and disagree, in that we should continue to highlight the contradictions in truthers' claims, but the facts should continue to be available easily (although I'm sure you'll agree with the latter, although you haven't stated so). When truthers bring something new to the table, the dedicated debunkers here are right on it, and rightly so. We are doing well, and the Truth Movement is in decline, if not imploding.

Over a year ago the first 9/11 CT debunking topic was posted here, and at first the claimants were debated and destroyed with facts. Since then, the claims have been repeated by innumerable believers, to the point where the facts had been repeated ad nauseum, and yet the individual believers still expected to have each claim debunked for them personally.

While it may be argued that truthers' claims are simple errors of logic, it saves time, knowing the facts are still out there, to ridicule the previous, major claimants when they are proven to lie, and when they distort the facts to try to save their own reputations, such as they are. This further proves the Truthers are open to riducule, and deserve it, especially since their claims are ridiculous.

 

[maccy]

I don't know who this guy is. But I know the real Pete Doherty (I assume that's where he got his screen name) is a crack addict punk rocker.

Huh? I thought his forename is Paul.

Nah, it's Pete Doherty. Actually has put out some pretty decent music. This Pdoherty character could be Paul, but I'm pretty sure he took his name from Pete Doherty. At least that's what I accused him of at LC.

Over the course of various posts by P'Doh it's emerged that his name is Paul Doherty (born in 1976) and this is the source of his username - ie it's not based on Pete Doherty. In recent times he's even posted a scan of his degree certificate:

PD'oh has actually posted his degree certificate:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/pdoherty76/LastScan.jpg

Note it isn't a masters in "Mathematical Physics" as he was fond of claiming. The course details are here:

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/search/atoz/course/index.htm?code=01688&pg=1
http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/undergraduate/ugstudies/programmes/single-honours-maths.html

Note that the only compulsory applied mathematics courses are in statistics. PD'oh could easily have avoided all those mechanics courses.

(ETA: Looking closer, he should have learned something useful from this compulsory course:
http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/undergraduate/ugstudies/units/level1/MATH10222/
and possibly this one:
http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/undergraduate/ugstudies/units/level2/MATH20401/ )

Also, a second class, division two honours degree (aka a 2:2) is not particularly impressive. I'm not certain if he would have got a masters degree if he'd done a 3 year BSc and then applied to do a further postgraduate course.

Details of British degree classifications are here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification

All in all though, I think that PD'oh is too crazy to use his intelligence and his education. As he said in the posts that he has now excised from Conspiracy Smasher "I realised I was arguing with the rational part of my mind."

This is the other thing that PD is using his photobucket account for:

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/pdoherty76/?action=view&current=doglaugh.gif

NB: the certificate says Paul Doherty.

 

[CptColumbo]

Now this shows he is still out there. The dating post is less than six months old. It was new when found. Gravy, I believe, pointed this out at the time.



I always knew it was him. LMFAO!

I finally worked out what "LMFAO" stands for. Thank you, it has opened a whole new world of understanding for me on the net.