'Hardfire' Call-in Reminder

[Dave Rogers]

Told you, it's for Gravy. If he ever has the guts to post in this forum again.

This, I think, is Gravy's finest achievement in the field of conspiracy theory debunking.

Let me explain.

JHarrow has some questions related to 9-11 that, he says, will blow our socks off. By cunning reasoning and masterful interpretation of new research he has finally put his finger on the unanswerable question that will make it clear to the meanest intelligence that a new investigation of 9-11 is not just desirable, but vital. He has only to ask the question, and the primary aim of the truth movement is achieved.

But he won't ask it. Why not?

Because it's for Gravy. It's not for us lesser debunkers, or for criminal investigators, or for politicians, scientists or journalists. It's a question for the man who is universally acknowledged by the truth movement as the greatest force in the covert plot to hide the truth of 9-11, a meek, mild-mannered New York tour guide by day but who, on the Internet, promptly puts his underpants outside his trousers and becomes Gravyman, debunker supreme.

So what does Gravy have to do to keep the lid on this killer question?

Simple.

Nothing.

Because if he simply stays in his well-earned debunker retirement, the dread question will never be asked, the genie will stay in the bottle and the awful truth of 9-11 will never be revealed.

And that, I submit, is the ultimate debunking achievement. Gravy has ultimately thwarted the truth movement by refusing to debunking them any more.

I salute you, Gravy. The New World Order is proud of you.

Dave

 

[Brainache]

This, I think, is Gravy's finest achievement in the field of conspiracy theory debunking.

Let me explain.

JHarrow has some questions related to 9-11 that, he says, will blow our socks off. By cunning reasoning and masterful interpretation of new research he has finally put his finger on the unanswerable question that will make it clear to the meanest intelligence that a new investigation of 9-11 is not just desirable, but vital. He has only to ask the question, and the primary aim of the truth movement is achieved.

But he won't ask it. Why not?

Because it's for Gravy. It's not for us lesser debunkers, or for criminal investigators, or for politicians, scientists or journalists. It's a question for the man who is universally acknowledged by the truth movement as the greatest force in the covert plot to hide the truth of 9-11, a meek, mild-mannered New York tour guide by day but who, on the Internet, promptly puts his underpants outside his trousers and becomes Gravyman, debunker supreme.

So what does Gravy have to do to keep the lid on this killer question?

Simple.

Nothing.

Because if he simply stays in his well-earned debunker retirement, the dread question will never be asked, the genie will stay in the bottle and the awful truth of 9-11 will never be revealed.

And that, I submit, is the ultimate debunking achievement. Gravy has ultimately thwarted the truth movement by refusing to debunking them any more.

I salute you, Gravy. The New World Order is proud of you.

Dave

Hey Dave,
I nominated this post. Mostly because I think it precisely encapsulates the problems we all have with the loons, but also because it is applicable to other forms of bunk beyond 9/11. If homeopathy has a master debunker, this is how they would react to him, or Reiki, or Chi, or whatever.

The Bunker (sorry, I won't use "woo", it's crap)types will always be with us, I hope the Gravy types will also always be here to debunk whenever necessary..

 

[Drudgewire]

This thread serves as reinforcement that putting JHarrow on ignore within a day of his first post here was one of my better calls of the new year.

 

[bje]

My questions are based on new research. Not conducted by me, but which I have been privvy to on a private forum.

It will knock your socks off, so tune in.

Early onset incontinence?

 

[pomeroo]

My questions are based on new research. Not conducted by me, but which I have been privvy to on a private forum.

It will knock your socks off, so tune in.

Conspiracy liars produce nothing that rises to the level of "research." They recycle thoroughly debunked rubbish and occasionally fabricate new nonsense.

 

[pomeroo]

Did anyone notice Ron's pathetic appeal to authority when he introduced RMackey as NASA engineer.

Most of us acknowledge that NASA engineers deserve respect. Remember, the rationalists here understand that the 9/11 fantasy movement is a steaming load. Our understanding is based on being able to separate the wheat from the chaff, to distinguish the real engineers and scientists from the frauds and the incompetents. The conspiracy liars are merely ineducable fools. People like Ryan Mackey KNOW that the claims of the fantasy movement are rubbish. Moreover, they can prove that the loons are wrong.

 

[RedIbis]

Ron, I didn't get to watch the show because my stream cut out. I was able to see enough stills to recommend that you iron your shirt before you appear on camera.

 

[pomeroo]

Ron, I didn't get to watch the show because my stream cut out. I was able to see enough stills to recommend that you iron your shirt before you appear on camera.

You might want better resolution on those stills. I wasn't wearing a shirt. I was wearing a loose-fitting sweater under my jacket.

 

[RedIbis]

You might want better resolution on those stills. I wasn't wearing a shirt. I was wearing a loose-fitting sweater under my jacket.

Get it pressed. Wrinkles don't play well on camera.

 

[pomeroo]

Get it pressed. Wrinkles don't play well on camera.

It's possible that the sweater was smooth and my body was wrinkled.

 

[RedIbis]

It's possible that the sweater was smooth and my body was wrinkled.

See, you're quite funny when you're not calling me a fantasist liar from an evil movement.

 

[pomeroo]

See, you're quite funny when you're not calling me a fantasist liar from an evil movement.

Be consoled by the thought if you were a real person with a real name sitting in a bar with me, we could argue about conspiracy theories in a reasonably friendly manner.

 

[realitybites]

Any chance this debate will end up on YouTube or Google Video? I wasn't able to tune in last night.

 

[RedIbis]

Be consoled by the thought if you were a real person with a real name sitting in a bar with me, we could argue about conspiracy theories in a reasonably friendly manner.

I don't doubt that at all. In fact, I'm frequently in NYC and would invite you for a short meeting, lunch or the bar, on me. I made the same offer to Gravy at some point but he didn't seem too interested. I suspect he didn't care for my baseball loyalties.

 

[pomeroo]

I don't doubt that at all. In fact, I'm frequently in NYC and would invite you for a short meeting, lunch or the bar, on me. I made the same offer to Gravy at some point but he didn't seem too interested. I suspect he didn't care for my baseball loyalties.

Before we proceed further with the friendship stuff, what are your baseball loyalties? Do they involve a team that begins with the letter 'Y'?

 

[pomeroo]

Any chance this debate will end up on YouTube or Google Video? I wasn't able to tune in last night.

According to the producer, the tape got screwed up badly. It won't be shown again. I wonder if anyone watching it on cable thought to tape it? That's asking a great deal.

 

[JHarrow]

According to the producer, the tape got screwed up badly. It won't be shown again. I wonder if anyone watching it on cable thought to tape it? That's asking a great deal.

Ah, so not only has gravy fled from here due to his poor performance in debates, but now his hardfire call in show will never be shown. He must have performed very badly.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Don't feed.. Don't feed.

 

[pomeroo]

Ah, so not only has gravy fled from here due to his poor performance in debates, but now his hardfire call in show will never be shown. He must have performed very badly.

Gee, you must be very smart! You know so many things without, well, actually knowing anything. Yeah, Mark often performs very badly against agenda-driven dunces. This explains why the conspiracy liars are just lining up to take him on.

Mark and Arthur did quite well in the first show, which should be available very soon.

Your world sounds like an exciting, if totally zany, place. Where can we see those debates where Mark performed badly? On this planet, he always batters his opponents and, inconveniently enough for the liars, the debates are preserved in the archives.

 

[JHarrow]

Gee, you must be very smart! You know so many things without, well, actually knowing anything. Yeah, Mark often performs very badly against agenda-driven dunces. This explains why the conspiracy liars are just lining up to take him on.

Mark and Arthur did quite well in the first show, which should be available very soon.

Your world sounds like an exciting, if totally zany, place. Where can we see those debates where Mark performed badly? On this planet, he always batters his opponents and, inconveniently enough for the liars, the debates are preserved in the archives.

Why will the call in show never be shown?

The show where just skeptics were on is being shown but the show where truthers called in is being binned. Nothing suspicious about that!