Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

That Haig is actually Ben Davidson is an interesting possibility. aleCcowaN. It would certainly explain the obsession with an obviously deluded crank and the spamming of this thread with non-science videos!
However I think we should give Haig the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is not so stupid as to do things such as appear as a speaker at one of the Thunderbolt "cult" conferences.

Ben Davidson lying about being an expert in astrophysics, etc. emphasizes how deluded he is - Ben Davidson is an economist with no credentials in astrophysics, etc.!
That pathetic "paper" you cite is the closest he comes to astrophysics, etc . and it is mainly a statistical analysis that he may have had nothing to do with.
 
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Guys you seem to have lost the plot here :D This is what this thread is about !

EARTHSPOTS: Storms and Earthquakes [Update]

Try this too, to help you focus ;)

SpaceWeatherNews.com

THE SUN AND M8+ EARTHQUAKES: THE SPF TRIGGER
ABSTRACT

The solar polar fields (SPF) data, as measured by the Wilcox Solar Observatory (WSO), has been studied and compared with the large magnitude earthquake record from the United States Geological Survey. The time period covers the 38 years (+13,600 days) that the WSO has collected the SPF data. This study reveals a dependence of M8.0+ seismicity on the oscillations of the SPF; the results and analysis is reported.
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BTW There is NO need to click on the links if you are familiar with the hypothisis. :thumbsup:
 
Haig said:
More on the Sun - Earth connection than can trigger earthquakes, volcanoes & major storms here on Earth ;)

New Sunspots, Magnetic Storm | S0 News September 9, 2015
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Yes, we can compare the figments of your imagination with those of your archenemy dutch-nosense, who is doing mildly better in the intellectual arena mainly because he hasn't the commercial edge of yours, so he can believe what he wants to believe and he's not forced to adapt it to what is needed to pay the mortgage.

And you, "Haig", said "you lost the plot here" while you avoid to comment and tried to blurred that charlatanry of yours about the "M8.0+" and "SPF".

You have just been reduced to spamming: your daily piece of crap at suspicious' mixed with some general pieces of crap of the same origin as it's needed to feign "to be on topic".

So, it pretty safe to say that you have joined the large legion of charlatans here that produces some 20% of the posts of any endless thread without ever replying to any criticism, as if that is some sort of evidence that your pet fabrications (or ways of earning a living in this case) may include atoms of truth when it's just the case you pretty much need to comply with the MA and that's it. You couldn't replace those post with "yada yada" but you can make them up of a mix of yada-yada, spamming, Chinese whispers and random quotes of others posters to make it seem on topic and so surf it endlessly with the only limitation of the ability of your skin to deal with the sun.

Maybe you're not conscious that your links don't add to your Page rank in Google -they include an attribute of <no follow>- though I don't doubt some of the intellectual powerhouses that participate here click on them and when they see an add about what they were looking recently they click on it adding nice $$$$ to your monthly check.
 
aleCcowaN said:
Yes, we can compare the figments of your imagination with those of your archenemy dutch-nosense, who is doing mildly better in the intellectual arena mainly because he hasn't the commercial edge of yours, so he can believe what he wants to believe and he's not forced to adapt it to what is needed to pay the mortgage.

And you, "Haig", said "you lost the plot here" while you avoid to comment and tried to blurred that charlatanry of yours about the "M8.0+" and "SPF".

You have just been reduced to spamming: your daily piece of crap at suspicious' mixed with some general pieces of crap of the same origin as it's needed to feign "to be on topic".

So, it pretty safe to say that you have joined the large legion of charlatans here that produces some 20% of the posts of any endless thread without ever replying to any criticism, as if that is some sort of evidence that your pet fabrications (or ways of earning a living in this case) may include atoms of truth when it's just the case you pretty much need to comply with the MA and that's it. You couldn't replace those post with "yada yada" but you can make them up of a mix of yada-yada, spamming, Chinese whispers and random quotes of others posters to make it seem on topic and so surf it endlessly with the only limitation of the ability of your skin to deal with the sun.

Maybe you're not conscious that your links don't add to your Page rank in Google -they include an attribute of <no follow>- though I don't doubt some of the intellectual powerhouses that participate here click on them and when they see an add about what they were looking recently they click on it adding nice $$$$ to your monthly check.
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I think Belz wants a word with you about Youtube or crank websites :D

What are you saying here? "And you, "Haig", said "you lost the plot here" while you avoid to comment and tried to blurred that charlatanry of yours about the "M8.0+" and "SPF"

What exactly am I "avoid to comment on"?

Meanwhile, back on topic :)

As I understand it, the Sun regulates GCR and this PDF suggests cosmic rays play much more prominent role that is currently believed ...

On the relationship between cosmic rays, solar activity and powerful earthquakes. pdf
 
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It's not that you didn't but, who told you you were invited? It's obvious you have web properties and a highly monetized youtube channel and it's not our intention to help you to take care of that golden-egg-laying goose nor to reach your multimedia and financial goals.

This thread shows you have nothing about earthquakes -as you youtube link above shows- and that in spite you are "The owner of the Youtube channel, Suspicious Observers (SO) [who] is an expert in astrophysics, earth weather and space weather. His more than 51,000 subscribers, from every corner of the planet, watch the 2 to 3 minute daily updates with great regularity. SO is determined to demonstrate that the IPCC is wrong about the reasons for global warming. " (source)

So I'm thinking in starting a new thread to deal with "Haig's theories" as a whole, dealing with all their content at the same time: the mobile observatory project, spaceweathernews.com, magneticreversal.org, suspiciousobserver.org and all the KAHB LLC content. But not only the 100% pseudoscience in them but the means used to deceive the gullible.

What do you guys other than Haig think about this? Doesn't Haig's insistence in dropping his posts here make it necessary?
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Please correct me if I've misunderstood, but is Haig using his own websites to confirm his assumptions?

Circular or what?
 
Haig said:
What are you saying here? "And you, "Haig", said "you lost the plot here" while you avoid to comment and tried to blurred that charlatanry of yours about the "M8.0+" and "SPF"

What exactly am I "avoid to comment on"?

Meanwhile, back on topic :)
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Oh, that is the topic, but I don't blame you if you don't spot the difference.

I meant you just dropped your old theory because it didn't hold water in the end and replace it with this kind of things

Haig said:
On the relationship between cosmic rays, solar activity and powerful earthquakes. pdf
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another mathematical artefact similar to that in AK index and global warming as it just follows the o'le principle of "if you torture the data enough you can make it to attest for anything".

It's obvious that 7.8 was chosen because 7.3, 7.4, 7.5, 7.6, 7.7, 7.9 and 8.0 yielded different results. And that makes unnecessary to delve into other equally wrong aspects.

It's clear that being an attorney didn't prepare you for science but for endless argumentations in adversarial-system mode. And a clear sign of that lack of preparation is choosing a "paper" like the one above, which has no mathematical details but is plenty on anecdotal data carefully ordered to convince a jury of morons.
 
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Rincewind said:
Please correct me if I've misunderstood, but is Haig using his own websites to confirm his assumptions?

Circular or what?
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I'd rather say he may be recommending his own products in a huckstery way. If you read his posts in detail, he never fully addresses the argument or barely skims its surface. I think the purpose is the topic to be installed in the public perception. To be trendy, not to be true.
 
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Rincewind said:
Please correct me if I've misunderstood, but is Haig using his own websites to confirm his assumptions?

Circular or what?
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Yes, you've got it wrong :)
I don't have a website but some numpties on here are claiming I'm someone I'm not. If they can get THAT wrong what else are they mixed up over? :dl:

aleCcowaN said:
Oh, that is the topic, but I don't blame you if you don't spot the difference.

I meant you just dropped your old theory because it didn't hold water in the end and replace it with this kind of things



another mathematical artefact similar to that in AK index and global warming as it just follows the o'le principle of "if you torture the data enough you can make it to attest for anything".

It's obvious that 7.8 was chosen because 7.3, 7.4, 7.5, 7.6, 7.7, 7.9 and 8.0 yielded different results. And that makes unnecessary to delve into other equally wrong aspects.

It's clear that being an attorney didn't prepare you for science but for endless argumentations in adversarial-system mode. And a clear sign of that lack of preparation is choosing a "paper" like the one above, which has no mathematical details but is plenty on anecdotal data carefully ordered to convince a jury of morons.
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Thanks for that post, Belz should take notes ;)

No I haven't dropped any old theory. My hold point is it's our variable Sun and ALL my posts are linked with that in mind :)

So, this On the relationship between cosmic rays, solar activity and powerful earthquakes. pdf is just part of the mix :thumbsup:
 
Haig said:
So, this On the relationship between cosmic rays, solar activity and powerful earthquakes. pdf is just part of the mix-up :thumbsup:
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Fixed for you.

And as for authorship, don't be modest. Your lack of understanding matches exactly the lack of understanding in the links you provide. Besides, linking a new video unrelated to the discussion of the moment as soon as it comes public don help the perception of Haig and SO -and the whole constellation of products- being a different person.
 
That paper is a dog's breakfast. The graphs are a mess, the paragraph at the bottom of each should be folded into the body of the paper and the entire "drunk driving" thing needs a big red X slashed across it by a non blood related editor.

At first glance this paper looks scientoidical, not scientific, and appears to suffer from a lack of academic oversight.

Also, the conclusion ends not with a bang but a waffle: now we blame cosmic rays, somehow, because the data in the paper doesn't actually support sun-triggered seismicity.

And this paper has what peer review and publication history? I seem to have missed that part.
 
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I think the most laughable treat in all the Haig-like papers and all of this solar advocacy is the wrong notion that what triggers an earthquake at some point is what determines its magnitude. They had to denaturalize seismology in order to place the Sun as an important cause.

If I were going to pursue some research about the solar activity I would try to match some solar variable to the frequency of quakes between 2 and 4 magnitude, and not the big ones which mean nothing. This approach quickly dismisses the solar connection, so the true believers had resourced to the o'le "important things should have important causes" and used sleight of data to show some faux links, like that sorry paper does.
 
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