Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

[Haig]

Yet more copypasta, Haig?

A fact's a fact for A' that ! (apologizes to R Burns)

May I ask, how much commission do you receive from the owners of the sites you post links to?

That's a slur that you should apologize for! I doubt you will.

It's becoming more common in your posts lately the last one being the cult slur. Neither is true and it's an approach that should be beneath you but obviously isn't.

 

[Haig]

Coronal hole impact on it's way and more info on the potential for earthquakes in this piece on the Sun - Earth connection.

Sunspots, Solar Wind, Storms | S0 News June 6, 2015

 

[BazBear]

That's a slur that you should apologize for! I doubt you will.

It's becoming more common in your posts lately the last one being the cult slur. Neither is true and it's an approach that should be beneath you but obviously isn't.

Well, slur or not, after years of you posting so much obviously wrong pseudo-scientific nonsense, I can understand him questioning what would motivate you, or anyone, to repeatedly post such utter dreck. Just sayin'.

 

[Haig]

Well, slur or not, after years of you posting so much obviously wrong pseudo-scientific nonsense, I can understand him questioning what would motivate you, or anyone, to repeatedly post such utter dreck. Just sayin'.

You're way OT

But FYI this stuff makes the most sense and a 99.9 Plasma Universe is the way it's heading and more and more new discoveries are confirming it all the time. Just saying'

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Have you managed to goatse an actual coupling phenomenon between random atmospheric events and subterranean physical movement?

 

[Trakar]

Have you managed to goatse an actual coupling phenomenon between random atmospheric events and subterranean physical movement?

10 pages and counting, and nothing so far.

 

[jimbob]

Have you managed to goatse an actual coupling phenomenon between random atmospheric events and subterranean physical movement?

10 pages and counting, and nothing so far.

TBF, there was one - of course the causal relationship went the other way - volcanoes can cause lightning.


Volcanic eruptions will also create winds - maybe that should also be mentioned.

Actually, I think it is believed that climate can affect vulcanism through sea levels and ice cap cover affecting stresses in the Earth's crust.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I've thought of one possible coupling mechanism but I'm pretty sure the forces required exceed the forces available. It involves magnets, not ElecromawhatchamahoosieIsm, though.

 

[Trakar]

I've thought of one possible coupling mechanism but I'm pretty sure the forces required exceed the forces available. It involves magnets, not ElecromawhatchamahoosieIsm, though.

And that is one of the main issues, finding a coupling mechanism is an important first step to researching and analyzing whether or not potentially viable mechanisms could actually generate the forces and results that we observe. Currently, there is no indication that Haig nor any of his YouTube story-tellers (much less the fringe political bloggers he seems all a swoon over) have any idea about such issues. It tends to make me think that they really aren't process oriented, just tossing pennies in a wishing well hoping that miracles are real.

 

[Trakar]

TBF, there was one - of course the causal relationship went the other way - volcanoes can cause lightning.


Volcanic eruptions will also create winds - maybe that should also be mentioned.

Actually, I think it is believed that climate can affect vulcanism through sea levels and ice cap cover affecting stresses in the Earth's crust.

This last bit is certainly accepted mainstream geophysical/climate science, but it really doesn't couple solar wind directly to tectonic activity.

 

[abaddon]

Wait a minute, is it actually Haig's claim that he has absolutely no science education, does not understand the science yet he must be correct because of what he read on crank websites which he furthermore also claims to be unable to understand?

Am I misreading? Or is there some other odd context which I have entirely missed?

 

[Trakar]

Wait a minute, is it actually Haig's claim that he has absolutely no science education, does not understand the science yet he must be correct because of what he read on crank websites which he furthermore also claims to be unable to understand?

Am I misreading? Or is there some other odd context which I have entirely missed?

The only thing I see that you left out was his heavy reliance on crank youtube expositions, but I believe you have about figured out the situation.

 

[Haig]

Wait a minute, is it actually Haig's claim that he has absolutely no science education, does not understand the science yet he must be correct because of what he read on crank websites which he furthermore also claims to be unable to understand?

Am I misreading? Or is there some other odd context which I have entirely missed?

Yes you are misreading. I haven't said that

The only thing I see that you left out was his heavy reliance on crank youtube expositions, but I believe you have about figured out the situation.

There was a couple of peer reviewed papers on the topic ! back a few pages in the thread. One for one against

And liking youtube videos doesn't make me a bad person !

 

[jimbob]

This last bit is certainly accepted mainstream geophysical/climate science, but it really doesn't couple solar wind directly to tectonic activity.

That is a slight understatement...

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Solar wind causing earthquakes is sinking the Titanic with a flashlight. The difference in energy is both kind and amount, and the difference in amount is an order of magnitude of orders of magnitude.

 

[ferd burfle]

Yes you are misreading. I haven't said that

In fairness, you said were no scientist and did not say that you didn't have any science education. But sadly, based on the scientific accuracy of your posts, this is a distinction without a difference.

 

[Haig]

Solar wind causing earthquakes is sinking the Titanic with a flashlight. The difference in energy is both kind and amount, and the difference in amount is an order of magnitude of orders of magnitude.

Oh dear! Jrrarglblarg You are not keeping up with the latest thinking on the Sun - Earth connection. The Sun triggering earthquakes is not so far fetched as you like to make out.

This may give you a clue The Sun May Dictate Our Future

In fairness, you said were no scientist and did not say that you didn't have any science education. But sadly, based on the scientific accuracy of your posts, this is a distinction without a difference.

That is a little bit fairer ferd ... up to the "but" . Let me try again to show you what I'm getting at ... have a look at this clip of a video :- Solar Activity & Earthquakes can you doubt the "scientific accuracy" of all this ?

If you have the time, look up some of the recent papers on the Sun in just the last couple of years (linked to just below the video or just click citations) It's being noticed by many scientists that the Sun is a trigger to not just earthquakes but a whole lot more than is currently realised.

Like these papers ... just as a start :-

Evidence for solar wind modulation of lightning PDF

Modulation of galactic cosmic rays during the unusual solar minimum between cycles 23 and 24

Russian researchers find more evidence to support notion that lightning is caused by cosmic rays

Earth's Chandler Wobble Changed Dramatically in 2005


Then you may see the point of these EARTHSPOTS: Storms and Earthquakes [Update] & Earthquakes and the Solar System

While I'm on my soapbox you should keep up with the latest on the Sun - Earth connection here ... Space Weather, Earth Weather, GMOs | S0 News June 7, 2015

 

[abaddon]

The only thing I see that you left out was his heavy reliance on crank youtube expositions, but I believe you have about figured out the situation.

I only left out the yooboob bit because I refuse to be dragged into argumentum ad youtubem.

 

[Haig]

I only left out the yooboob bit because I refuse to be dragged into argumentum ad youtubem.

Quite right too

A video is a excellent way to view a new concept

The SAFIRE Project and JMP®: What Makes Our Sun Shine?

 

[ferd burfle]

Oh dear!That is a little bit fairer ferd ... up to the "but" . Let me try again to show you what I'm getting at ... have a look at this clip of a video :- Solar Activity & Earthquakes can you doubt the "scientific accuracy" of all this ?

If you have the time, look up some of the recent papers on the Sun in just the last couple of years (linked to just below the video or just click citations) It's being noticed by many scientists that the Sun is a trigger to not just earthquakes but a whole lot more than is currently realised.

Like these papers ... just as a starta;

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No, Haig, why would I folllow these links? They link to crank sites, vanity journals and youboob videos. I quit followingyour links long ago. Wake me up if you post a link to a peeer-reviewed paper that isn't in a vanity journal.