Gravy Cleanses Silverstein Quote

boloboffin said:
Yes, the documentary only has that short clip. I went to the Great Projects website and emailed one of their producers about getting more context. Hey, it never hurts to ask, right?
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Asking questions doesn't.
The answer might hurt, though (if you're a denier that is).

ETA: Thanks btw for e-mailing them.
 
So did you come up with anything to show that "pull it" is an industry term for blowing stuff up yet?
 
Ah, the "pull it" remark. Despite fierce competition, for me this remains one of the troof movement's most absurd claims. The notion that the Fire Commander rang Silverstein, Silverstein told the Fire Commander to blow up building seven and the Fire Commander went away and did exactly that is amazingly stupid.

What I really want to know from troofer1234, and it is something that has yet to be explained to me by any other troofer, is how they see Mr. Silverstein's role in their conpiracy fantasy from the planning stage, through execution and afterwards. For example, I cannot see why the Fire Commander would be ringing Silverstein at all. The CT has it that the the demise of WTC7 is pre-planned (destruction of sooper sekrit documents or destruction of operational bunker, take your pick). So, troofer1234, can you notch up a first for the troof by explaining Silverstein's role?.
 
sleahead said:
Ah, the "pull it" remark. Despite fierce competition, for me this remains one of the troof movement's most absurd claims. The notion that the Fire Commander rang Silverstein, Silverstein told the Fire Commander to blow up building seven and the Fire Commander went away and did exactly that is amazingly stupid.

What I really want to know from troofer1234, and it is something that has yet to be explained to me by any other troofer, is how they see Mr. Silverstein's role in their conpiracy fantasy from the planning stage, through execution and afterwards. For example, I cannot see why the Fire Commander would be ringing Silverstein at all. The CT has it that the the demise of WTC7 is pre-planned (destruction of sooper sekrit documents or destruction of operational bunker, take your pick). So, troofer1234, can you notch up a first for the troof by explaining Silverstein's role?.
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It's so simple; anybody can figure this one out.

It goes like this, rogue elements inside the US government came up with a plan, to commit mass of their own country men. This plan was incredibly complex. They involved hundreds of people before hand and the one of the ring leaders said.

“Hey has anybody phoned Silverstien yet?"

Ring, Ring........

" Hi Larry, we've got a plan, it involves loads and loads of people and wondered if you wanted a piece of the action"

" Really? ,what’s going on?"

" Well without going into too much detail, maybe you should plant loads of explosives inside WTC 7 and get better insurance on it"

" Em, interesting, it's sounds a bit dodgy, maybe I should phone the authorities"

" Oh it's ok, they are involved also"

Pause.

“Ok I'm in, it sounds perfect"
 
stateofgrace said:
It's so simple; anybody can figure this one out.

It goes like this, rogue elements inside the US government came up with a plan, to commit mass of their own country men. This plan was incredibly complex. They involved hundreds of people before hand and the one of the ring leaders said.

“Hey has anybody phoned Silverstien yet?"

Ring, Ring........

" Hi Larry, we've got a plan, it involves loads and loads of people and wondered if you wanted a piece of the action"

" Really? ,what’s going on?"

" Well without going into too much detail, maybe you should plant loads of explosives inside WTC 7 and get better insurance on it"

" Em, interesting, it's sounds a bit dodgy, maybe I should phone the authorities"

" Oh it's ok, they are involved also"

Pause.

“Ok I'm in, it sounds perfect"
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"By the way, don't mention this little conspiracy in any interviews, OK?"
 
*bump for TS1234*

TS1234 said:
No, the WTC towers didn't crumble into fine dust. They exploded into fine dust, along with shredded steel. If you wish to dispute this, in spite of the overwhelming evidence, please, present some evidence. Where is the concrete?
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Kent1 said:
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TS1234 - did you manage to find the concrete in those pictures? Just a simple yes or no would do.
 
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TruthSeeker1234 said:
No, the WTC towers didn't crumble into fine dust. They exploded into fine dust, along with shredded steel. If you wish to dispute this, in spite of the overwhelming evidence, please, present some evidence. Where is the concrete? I'm waiting.
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Once again, BS1234, I remind you that I provided you the names, addresses, phone numbers and emails of the men who actually sorted the rubble of the towers. These men will give you their first-hand testimony as to what the remains of the towers consisted of and all of the objects they found that were not shredded steel and powdered concrete. They will also give you access to people who worked for very, very low wages on the conveyer belts sorting the debris, in case you think that wealthy people cannot be trusted as a rule.

And once again, you will ignore this post. You will not do any first-hand research. You will not speak to actual witnesses. The reason you will not do this is because you have a mental defect that makes your ego incapable of dealing in person with people you fear will not support you.

If you wish to dispute this, please provide the contact information for your closest relatives including your brother-in-law. You won't do that, though, because you know your sister and brother-in-law also believe you to be mentally ill.
 
Loss Leader said:
And once again, you will ignore this post. You will not do any first-hand research. You will not speak to actual witnesses. The reason you will not do this is because you have a mental moral defect that makes your ego incapable of dealing in person with people you fear will not support you.
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Minor correction.
 
In a post above, MikeW noted that Kevin Barrett, the controversial U. Wisconsin semi-prof., badly misquoted Larry Silverstein on his MUJCA.com website. I wrote a detailed email to Barrett asking him to correct several things, and gave him the link to my WTC 7 paper. This passage from MUJCA deserves extra-credit for mendacity and ignorance, and check out that last sentence!

"9/11 insurance-fraudster Larry Silverstein, like the Poe narrator, was apparently confounded by the noise of his own lying heartbeat when he confessed on national TV to making "a decision to pull (WTC-7)...and we made that decision to pull, and we watched the building collapse." Silverstein's inability to get anything built on the site during the past five years, leaving a gigantic bomb crater screaming silently to the world that the WTC was destroyed by bombs, not by planes, is another, far more eloquent confession. To borrow a phrase from the Loose Change logo, Larry's bomb crater is "louder than words." Perhaps the best possible memorial would be to leave the site exactly the way it is, and hold a ribbon-cutting ceremony for the Larry Silverstein Memorial Bomb Crater.

What I'm getting at here is that there is an "emotional intelligence" side to 9/11 truth as well as a scientific side...."
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This guy claims to be a Scholar! He teaches at a public university!
 
What I'm getting at here is that there is an "emotional intelligence" side to 9/11 truth as well as a scientific side...
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Beautiful...if you're ever proven wrong, just say that the scientific evidence may be against you, but on the "emotional intelligence" side, you're still somehow correct.

That the author of this sentence is being paid public money to educate people -- when education is clearly the last profession in which he should be allowed to practice -- bespeaks a serious failure somewhere.
 
TS1234 - did you manage to find the concrete in those pictures?
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A lot of powder, very little macroscopic chunks, nothing resembling a floor, much less 220 floors. I see one flat chunk about 20 ' x 5'. Let's be very generous with the above photos and say there is 100 tons of macroscopic concrete in the photos. This would represent 1/2000 of the total.

What happened to the remainder of the concrete is not a mystery. Lower Manhattan was covered from the East River to the Hudson with powder inches deep. The sky appeared overcast because there was so much dust suspended in it. The photos and videos show this pulverization occurring.

I stand by the statement that some very large percentage of the non-metallic contents of the towers were converted into powder. Where is a desk? Where is a computer? Where is carpet? And what, pray tell, is the explanation for this?

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TruthSeeker1234 said:
A lot of powder, very little macroscopic chunks, nothing resembling a floor, much less 220 floors. I see one flat chunk about 20 ' x 5'. Let's be very generous with the above photos and say there is 100 tons of macroscopic concrete in the photos. This would represent 1/2000 of the total.

What happened to the remainder of the concrete is not a mystery. Lower Manhattan was covered from the East River to the Hudson with powder inches deep. The sky appeared overcast because there was so much dust suspended in it. The photos and videos show this pulverization occurring.

I stand by the statement that some very large percentage of the non-metallic contents of the towers were converted into powder. Where is a desk? Where is a computer? Where is carpet? And what, pray tell, is the explanation for this?
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The bulk of that dust has been shown, repeatedly, to be gypsum drywall dust.

Also, you still need to retract your accusational analogy concerning supporters of the Evidence Based Conclusion and Holocaust deniers.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
A lot of powder, very little macroscopic chunks, nothing resembling a floor, much less 220 floors. I see one flat chunk about 20 ' x 5'. Let's be very generous with the above photos and say there is 100 tons of macroscopic concrete in the photos. This would represent 1/2000 of the total.

What happened to the remainder of the concrete is not a mystery. Lower Manhattan was covered from the East River to the Hudson with powder inches deep. The sky appeared overcast because there was so much dust suspended in it. The photos and videos show this pulverization occurring.

I stand by the statement that some very large percentage of the non-metallic contents of the towers were converted into powder. Where is a desk? Where is a computer? Where is carpet? And what, pray tell, is the explanation for this?

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What, exactly, in those pictures do you want us to explain to you?
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
A lot of powder, very little macroscopic chunks, nothing resembling a floor, much less 220 floors. I see one flat chunk about 20 ' x 5'. Let's be very generous with the above photos and say there is 100 tons of macroscopic concrete in the photos. This would represent 1/2000 of the total.
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No, we will not be "generous" to you, fool. Show us how you derived the 1/2000th. On what measurements is it based?

Answer: "On no measurements, Gravy. But you should believe what I say, because I am a really true truth seeker."

What happened to the remainder of the concrete is not a mystery. Lower Manhattan was covered from the East River to the Hudson with powder inches deep.
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No it wasn't. Guess you'll have to recalculate your concrete "powderization" percentage. And of course you know that there was far more gypsum than concrete in the dust samples, because we've shown you the studies.

I stand by the statement that some very large percentage of the non-metallic contents of the towers were converted into powder.
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No, you don't stand by that statement, because you are unable to support it. I've asked you many times to do so. Do it now or retract it.
How about that shredded steel, AttentionSeeker? Show your sources for that.

Have you actually read NOTHING about the WTC on 9/11? You don't even know that cars were on fire everywhere, including in the parking lot across West Street, because of the debris damage from the towers?

When the hell are you going to stop asking us to do your homework for you, you lazy sot?
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Where is a desk? Where is a computer?
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lets try a little thought experiment, shall we?

imagine a desk, now imagine a computer on that desk, now imagine a 1-ton rock suspended 5 feet above the desk

now drop the rock

were the desk and computer reduced to an unrecognizable mess?

now imagine a million of those rocks dropped from 300 times the height

thats what happened to the desks and computers
 
DavidJames said:
That idiot actually expects to see floor after floor stacked up like pancakes, with computers, file cabinets flattened between them.

He lives in a cartoon world, TV land.
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Kind of like when Jerry hits Tom over the head with a poker, and the poker takes the shape of Tom's head?
 
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