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Good Pick for EPA

theprestige said:
As a conservative refugee from southern Commiefornia, currently engaged in gentrifying Portland, OR, I look forward to the climate here becoming a little more like San Diego.
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I'm sure people from the Middle East are looking forward to it becoming more arid and inhospitable.
 
Jerrymander said:
I'm sure people from the Middle East are looking forward to it becoming more arid and inhospitable.
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Seems to me that would be the least of their problems. But if we could figure out a decent refugee screening process, there might actually be an upside: Peaceful human beings who just want to contribute to a productive society and build a better tomorrow for themselves and their families can be assimilated into welcoming nations in balmier climes. Violent extremist douchebags can stay exiled in a hell they did not make entirely on their own, but certainly deserve. A desert is their just desert.
 
theprestige said:
Seems to me that would be the least of their problems.
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. . . But for the fact that drought and food insecurity played a big role in the unrest of the Arab Spring protests. Just considering the mess in Syria, the UN estimates that 5.8 million refugees have fled that country and another 6.6 million have been displaced within Syria. That's a lot of people. Consider that it's only about 1 million Syrian refugees who have fled to Europe, and that hasn't exactly gone smoothly.

Here's where it gets dicey, and this is how I explain the problem of climate change to my students. Forget Polar Bears and dessicating salamanders on lonely mountain tops. Anthropogenic Climate Change is an issue of national and global security: Those 5.8 million Syrian refugees are but an opening act for the estimated 34 million Bangladeshis likely to be displaced from sea level rise by 2030. We don't need to listen to a bunch of hippie ecologists decrying loss of biodiversity to understand climate change. We need only follow the lead of those Greenpeace envirowackos at the Pentagon.
 
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Of all the denier arguments, the "I look forward to it being a bit warmer where I live" is possibly one of the most stupid. It demonstrates an utter failure to think further than the lenght of one's nose.
 
uke2se said:
Of all the denier arguments, the "I look forward to it being a bit warmer where I live" is possibly one of the most stupid. It demonstrates an utter failure to think further than the lenght of one's nose.
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Actually, that's not a denier argument at all. Obviously. And it's not stupid, either. Since global warming is happening whether I like it or not, I think it's important to plan accordingly, and to find the upsides where I can.
 
theprestige said:
. . . find the upsides where I can.
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I applaud your optimism, but these things don't happen in isolation. What we tropical, naked apes might consider a gift of two more weeks of summer weather in Maine comes with strings attached, e.g., endemic malaria in Texas, a weeks' shorter growing season in Western Europe, tens of thousands of inundated square kilometers of current land on which people live and grow food . . .
 
The Shrike said:
I applaud your optimism, but these things don't happen in isolation. What we tropical, naked apes might consider a gift of two more weeks of summer weather in Maine comes with strings attached, e.g., endemic malaria in Texas, a weeks' shorter growing season in Western Europe, tens of thousands of inundated square kilometers of current land on which people live and grow food . . .
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If it doesn't affect them personally, they just don't give a ****.
 
NoahFence said:
If it doesn't affect them personally, they just don't give a ****.
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The problem for them is that they're not immune. Food shortages will affect everyone.

And if you think the refugee crisis in Europe is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
 
The Shrike said:
. . . But for the fact that drought and food insecurity played a big role in the unrest of the Arab Spring protests. Just considering the mess in Syria, the UN estimates that 5.8 million refugees have fled that country and another 6.6 million have been displaced within Syria. That's a lot of people. Consider that it's only about 1 million Syrian refugees who have fled to Europe, and that hasn't exactly gone smoothly.

Here's where it gets dicey, and this is how I explain the problem of climate change to my students. Forget Polar Bears and dessicating salamanders on lonely mountain tops. Anthropogenic Climate Change is an issue of national and global security: Those 5.8 million Syrian refugees are but an opening act for the estimated 34 million Bangladeshis likely to be displaced from sea level rise by 2030. We don't need to listen to a bunch of hippie ecologists decrying loss of biodiversity to understand climate change. We need only follow the lead of those Greenpeace envirowackos at the Pentagon.
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Lol
Nothing about dictatorial oppression? They're starving because the climate has warmed .03 of a degree? Like the Prestige said, they have more pressing problems than your hoax.


I forgot to add my usual statement to what left leaning folks post. I don't trust you Scientific american who has published an article that has its supposed proof backed up by the liberal Think progress? This is where libs lie and other libs put it up as fact. Nothing leftists do is honest, they are corrupt through and through. You shouldn't be using them as your proof.
 
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uke2se said:
The problem for them is that they're not immune. Food shortages will affect everyone.

And if you think the refugee crisis in Europe is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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The US and South America are having year after year of bumper crops. Your dream of a GW disaster isn't going to happen. As things warm Canada and other colder climates will have bumper crops. The only way people starve is being governed by oppressive governments which policies you probably support. ;)
 
logger said:
Lol
Nothing about dictatorial oppression? They're starving because the climate has warmed .03 of a degree? Like the Prestige said, they have more pressing problems than your hoax..
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Small things can have great effects. Let me guess, you also think CO2 is just a trace gas and can't have any effect on climate.

I forgot to add my usual statement to what left leaning folks post. I don't trust you Scientific american who has published an article that has its supposed proof backed up by the liberal Think progress? This is where libs lie and other libs put it up as fact. Nothing leftists do is honest, they are corrupt through and through. You shouldn't be using them as your proof.
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So what other sciences do you reject? Is vaccination just a plot by the government to give us cancer viruses.
 
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Jerrymander said:
Small things can have great effects. Let me guess, you also think CO2 is just a trace gas and can't have any effect on climate.
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Actually the oceans emit 95%, forests 4.5% and humans the rest. All that damn water, I vote for more trees. ;)
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So what other sciences do you reject? Is vaccination just a plot by the government to give us cancer viruses.
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Are more leftists anti-vaxers?
 
logger said:
Lol
Nothing about dictatorial oppression?
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Had you read the article you'd find that dictatorial oppression was certainly the main reason for the Arab Spring uprisings. Wait, if I read that in the liberal rag Scientific American, does that mean it's not true??
 
The Shrike said:
Had you read the article you'd find that dictatorial oppression was certainly the main reason for the Arab Spring uprisings. Wait, if I read that in the liberal rag Scientific American, does that mean it's not true??
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The question about dictatorial oppression was directed at you, you failed to mention it in your zeal to promote your hoax.


Why would you even think I would accept as fact some opinion piece from your favorite leftists, that is truly bold.
 
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