The Great Zaganza
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Just for clarification: you think it's easier to change the way billions of people live instead of the way a dozen companies do business?
1.5C was only ever an arbitrary target to aim for, and 'adaptation and resilience' was always part of the plan.t took a while, but even my most stalwart objectors eventually come around and acknowledge that I was right all along. Even climate scientists are starting to agree that the whole avert 1.5C by 2030 was a pipe dream and politicians are starting to realize that adaptation and resilience are the way forward.
Who ever cared about them? I want to curbstomp the people doing stupid stunts in gas cars.Extinction Rebellion has packed it in after finally figuring out that their stupid stunts made the general public just want to get out of their cars to curbstomp them rather than save the planet. I haven't heard of Friday's for Future in years and...
It's the same old story - when the going gets tough the weak chicken out. But that's OK, closing the Strait is still having the desired effect. Only another week to go...Canadians are downgrading their concerns for climate if favour of more mundane issues like the cost of living under this new "carbon tax" that the closing of the Straits of Hormuz has brought about.
We should do both.Just for clarification: you think it's easier to change the way billions of people live instead of the way a dozen companies do business?
Congratulations! Your posts have reached the delusional levels of a Donald Trump speech. The only thing missing is that your "stalwart objectors" are big, strong men with tears in their eyes when they come up to you and tell you that you were "right all along."Still standing by that report? Excellent, that means you agree with what I've been saying all along, that's it's the middle class lifestyle that causing the current climate crisis. It took a while, but even my most stalwart objectors eventually come around and acknowledge that I was right all along.
It is not at all difficult to find your politicians talking about "adaptation and resilience" IRL, but they aren't 'starting to realize' anything. They are to be found in the Trump and Carney administrations and were always paid by the fossil-fuel industry to say the same things.Even climate scientists are starting to agree that the whole avert 1.5C by 2030 was a pipe dream and politicians are starting to realize that adaptation and resilience are the way forward.
No, Extinction Rebellion hasn't "packed it in." It's another one of your made-up claims. I have no idea what you hear about, but your post so far makes me think that it's mainly from the voices in your head.Extinction Rebellion has packed it in after finally figuring out that their stupid stunts made the general public just want to get out of their cars to curbstomp them rather than save the planet. I haven't heard of Friday's for Future in years and...
That Canadians, much like people everywhere else, are mainly concerned with the "cost of living," is to be expected. How could they not be?! That's what happens when a majority of people live paycheck to paycheck. It's not a choice.Canadians are downgrading their concerns for climate if favour of more mundane issues like the cost of living under this new "carbon tax" that the closing of the Straits of Hormuz has brought about.
Bill Maher is a one-trick pony, and his fans never get tired of his one-trick rants. (You're a one-trick pony, too, and I'll get back to your one trick before I finish this post!) It's a pity that Maher's fans are too dumb to notice his trick, and it's a pity that you haven't noticed it because it's the one that you keep repeating, which is why you always miss my point. You haven't even noticed the difference between what Maher criticizes and what I have been saying in this and the other climate thread for years. You also don't notice the similarities:Speaking of private jets, who could forget this. Fun bit starts at 2 minutes in.
I think most of the people in this thread got the point, so this is just for you:Maher: I don't know what will work [to fix the environment], but I know what didn't work: asking people to be good, trying to convince our citizens and other countries to use less and pollute less, sacrifice more. When you tell humans, 'If you do these environmentally friendly things, we can all continue to live,' their response is, 'What's in it for me?'
So just to be clear: I do still believe very much that climate change is an emergency, but I don't think we're going to win it by grocery shopping with a laundry bag [photo of woman with laundry bag], or banning the gas stoves [photo of a lit gas stove], or imagining a human can really drink this through a paper straw [photo of some kind of whipped-cream-achino with a cherry and a paper straw]. Scrolling on your phone can use more energy in a day than the refrigerator, but no one is going to give that up.
That is the moral of his narrative! Human nature is to blame!We all must be aware by now that what buying everything from Amazon does to the environment. [Shows several photos of empty cardboard boxes from Amazon.]
But do we stop?
No! The verdict is in! Humans are not good people.
Just for clarification: you think it's easier to change the way billions of people live instead of the way a dozen companies do business?
Stout doesn't want to change the way people live.We should do both.
There is more Trump nonsense in the post, e.g. about the Reflecting Pool, but not relevant to this thread.Kristian G. Andersen on bsky, June 23, 2026
Trump revealed that the outgoing UK prime minister, Keir Starmer, failed to take his advice to rip out his nation's off-shore wind turbines and instead drill for oil. "I think he's a lovely man, but I said, 'You're really messing up energy: you have windmills all over the place.'"
Europe’s Soaring Heat and the Great Air Conditioning Dilemma (World Resources Institute, June 3, 2026)
Europe’s cities can beat extreme heat by combining efficient air con with passive cooling to reduce emissions and energy use.
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The cycle of rising heat, greater demand for cooling and growing emissions can be broken. Here, we look at data on Europe’s rising urban heat and explore how cities can adapt by pairing efficient, low-carbon air conditioning with long-term passive cooling solutions such as green roofs, reflective materials, tree planting and climate-smart building design.
Far easier to complain that somebody should so something while gobbling up fossil fuels, for sure.Just for clarification: you think it's easier to change the way billions of people live instead of the way a dozen companies do business?
No, Extinction Rebellion hasn't "packed it in." It's another one of your made-up claims. I have no idea what you hear about, but your post so far makes me think that it's mainly from the voices in your head.
Far easier to complain that somebody should so something while gobbling up fossil fuels, for sure.
The easy approach has worked out so well, hasn't it?
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Stout doesn't want to change the way people live.
He wants the extraction, selling and consumption of fossil fuels to continue or, if possible, increase.
That's what he's been arguing for the whole time.
And that's why he loves Bill Maher.
Nah, man, it's over. Granted it wasn't anywhere near as hilarious as Friday's For Future Auckland declaring themselves Nazis and packing it, in but WE QUIT means...we quit, with all the rest just being an attempt to hang onto the brand.Do you know what temporarily shifting away from a tactic means?
"Packing it in" is very far from a correct way to paraphrase it.
Like I said in post 2,285:
Wind turbines are beautiful.
Not as ugly as a nice brown haze everywhere you look.I support alternative power 100%, but suggesting that wind turbines are anything but an equal blight to the eyes as lines of overhead power cables is simply perverse.
New Zealand draws millions of tourists a year who want to take photos of our natural beauty. None of them want turbines in the shot - they are as ugly as sin itself.
Do you have shallow(ish) off-coast areas? Build them there, maybe?I support alternative power 100%, but suggesting that wind turbines are anything but an equal blight to the eyes as lines of overhead power cables is simply perverse.
New Zealand draws millions of tourists a year who want to take photos of our natural beauty. None of them want turbines in the shot - they are as ugly as sin itself.
Do you have shallow(ish) off-coast areas? Build them there, maybe?
Personally I like the sight of lines of wind turbines out at sea.
You are making it up Trumpian-style again like when he is talking about visitors to his Scottish golf course.I support alternative power 100%, but suggesting that wind turbines are anything but an equal blight to the eyes as lines of overhead power cables is simply perverse.
New Zealand draws millions of tourists a year who want to take photos of our natural beauty. None of them want turbines in the shot - they are as ugly as sin itself.
The unsuccessful countries use wind
Trump: China uses coal. The unsuccessful countries use wind. China. Those beautiful windmills that blow round and round and don't do anything except cost you money every time it goes around, you lose $10. Every country that uses wind is a disaster.
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You are making it up Trumpian-style again like when he is talking about visitors to his Scottish golf course.
I support alternative power 100%, but suggesting that wind turbines are anything but an equal blight to the eyes as lines of overhead power cables is simply perverse.