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When Al Gore was born in 1946 there were only 6,000 Polar Bears.

Some teams used to have a small fan base. The topic is Anthropogenic Global Warming. The undeniable one, unless you are a denialist or a denier and make a living or a hobby from trying to sell colourful balloons for noisy parties.

Again: Stay on character.

"Captain, the force shield is loosing integrity!"
 
Another slew of records in Colorado today...76 here south of Denver. With February almost half over we are already close to breaking the all time record for 70+ degree days. Global Warming + El Nino is going nuts right now. My colleagues are celebrating the insane warmth, oblivious to the major wildfire that is currently burning to the west...wildfires are not supposed to be happening in February...:mad:
 
If politics were removed from Global warming there would be nothing left. And we can see that happening as we speak . Most people do not care about it.
Politics is a different forum Arnold. But I will say that politics comes into play once we start discussing mitigation strategies ie what to do about it, not the science showing the problem exists.

You first need to understand the realities of the problem before you can even begin to discuss mitigation proposals acceptable to your political and/or socioeconomic ideology. Your posts are analogous to being opposed to welfare entitlements because the poor don't exist. A ridiculous failure on your part. Potentially there are many ways to solve the problem, and you don't necessarily need to change your ideology to accept AGW.

That's where you continually fail. Denying the science in the first place does not help your case.
 
Another slew of records in Colorado today...76 here south of Denver. With February almost half over we are already close to breaking the all time record for 70+ degree days. Global Warming + El Nino is going nuts right now. My colleagues are celebrating the insane warmth, oblivious to the major wildfire that is currently burning to the west...wildfires are not supposed to be happening in February...:mad:

Well, even Tisdale's is "advancing" GISS' land+ocean global temperature anomaly as a record breaking +1.13°C ! (they have to go with the flow)

In my neck of the woods I can't wait for the Summer to end. We've just had a lot of days with an average temperature of 34°C between noon and midnight, something that surely has happened before but I don't remember day after day after day of it before. It's overwhelming.

Just to mock us, I think, we had 10 days in a row of Summer as I knew it during my childhood and teens, with sunny days, not overwhelmingly humid air, lows between 14 and 19°C and highs between 25 and 32°C. No need of air conditioning, you just let the windows open by night and closed by the day and the brick walls do the trick. There were hot summers -not like the hell we have experienced this century- and cold summers, plenty of days with a low of 11°C and a high of 22°C -now that happens frequently during Winter-.
 
Let me correct you ...
Let me correct you - inability to understand written English is not good, Arnold Martin, :jaw-dropp!
You posted some pretty pictures of polar bears in an article that was not about climate change.
You could not understand the written English contained in the article.

It looks like delusions about polar bears is what we can expect from you.
  • Summary of polar bear population status per 2014 shows: Of the 19 recognized polar bear subpopulations, three are declining, six are stable, one is increasing, and nine have insufficient data, as of 2014.
  • Polar bears are not stupid enough to "for a 40 km swim just for the heck of it". They go for multi-kilometer swims looking for new hunting grounds on sea ice or scavenging on new islands). Polar bears die during their water crossings from one hunting ground to another. That is one cause of the death of cubs.
  • The basic fact you remain ignorant about, Arnold Martin: Polar bears hunt from sea ice. The shorter the sea ice lasts, the less food they can gather. This starves the bears. This is especially bad for female bears because the depend on being fat to feed cubs boron during the winter.
  • A fantasy about "in 1946 there were only 6,000 Polar Bears" is just that.
    There were no reliable estimates for polar bear numbers in the 1940s. Scientific surveys did not start until later.
  • More ignorance from Arnold Martin: There are other factors that affected polar bear numbers, especially hunting. The introduction of the International Agreement on the Conservation of Polar Bears in 1973 caused increases in numbers. So we expect more bears after 1973 - duh!
    The science though is that from 2002 to 2014, all except one of the subpopulations declined.
 
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You would be surprised how much I know .
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I know what you do not know.
  • A rant about a uncited and maybe even imaginary event seems to be most of the content of that post, Arnold Martin.
  • The stupidity of thinking that some uncited news release is climate science, Arnold Martin.
  • The idiocy of obsessing with Al Gore.
  • Arnold Martin: ignorance about polar bears.

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A fantasy about "in 1946 there were only 6,000 Polar Bears" is just that.
There were no reliable estimates for polar bear numbers in the 1940s. Scientific surveys did not start until later.

I guess it's a popular claim. It is true that sport hunting could likely have had a significant impact on their population, but I can't really imagine people wandering all over the arctic trying to take a census.
 
NOAA's state of the climate report for January:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201601

The January 2016 globally-averaged temperature across land and ocean surfaces was 1.04°C (1.87°F) above the 20th century average of 12.0°C (53.6°F), the highest for January in the 137-year period of record, breaking the previous record of 2007 by 0.16°C (0.29°F). This departure from average is the second highest among all months in the historical record, second only to December 2015, which was 1.11°C (2.00°F) above average. These two months are the only two to-date to surpass a monthly temperature departure of 1°C.
 
In local news, we've tied the all time February record of 81 degrees and the day isn't half over yet. We've shattered the old historical record of 9 days in February above 70 degrees...up to 12 I think and the month is still young. This will surely go down as the warmest February on record here in CO.

Whenever I get frustrated trying to argue the science with a denialist (because they always have some concocted form of science as a response...) I always ask them how much of an observational anomaly would convince them that "something unnatural is happening" absent some clear natural event (like the sun exploding...) What if it hits 120 degrees in February?? How about 140 degrees??? They either refuse to answer, or hey insist that it is an improper question--because, in their denialist minds, NO amount of empirical evidence will matter "If the science doesn't support the claim." Then they retreat to their claim that the science convincingly demonstrates that CO2 is not a culprit...blah bah. You just can't convince these folks. Unfortunately, so long as they are a large minority, we may have to wait for it to hit 120 degrees for people to take note. :(
 
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...vorite-temperature-data-just-got-a-lot-hotter

In a new paper, Carl Mears and Frank Wentz at Remote Sensing Systems (RSS) have revised their data set estimating the temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere. [...]

In their new paper, Mears and Wentz detail the revised RSS method to account for drift in the time of day at which satellites measure the same location on Earth (known as “diurnal drift”, discussed by Mears at the 0:47 mark in the above video). They applied a method suggested by Stephen Po-Chedley and colleagues at the University of Washington in an important paper covered by John Abraham last year. As a result, the new version of RSS (v4.0) shows about 60% more warming than the previous version (v3.3) since the record began in 1979.
 
ouch....again

COMMENT 7 March 2016

Northern hemisphere temperature breaches a terrifying milestoneWarming appears to have gone into overdrive, with the northern hemisphere going 2°C above pre-industrial temperatures for the first time, says Eric Holthaus
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Arctic scene
Unusually warm
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Preliminary February and early March temperatures are in, and it’s now abundantly clear: warming is going into overdrive.

As of 3 March, it appears that average temperatures across the northern hemisphere breached 2°C above pre-industrial levels for the first time in recorded history, and probably the first time since human civilisation began thousands of years ago.

The 2°C mark has long been held (somewhat arbitrarily) as the point above which climate change may begin to become “dangerous” to humanity. It has now arrived – though very briefly and only in the northern hemisphere – much more quickly than anticipated. This is a milestone moment for our species. Climate change deserves our greatest possible attention.

As for the planet as a whole, there are dozens of global temperature datasets, and usually I (and other climate journalists) wait until the official ones are released to announce a record-breaking month at the global level. But February’s global data is so extraordinary that there is no need to wait: it obliterated the all-time temperature record set only in January.

Using unofficial data and adjusting for different baseline temperatures, it appears that February was somewhere between 1.15°C and 1.4°C warmer than the long-term average, and about 0.2°C above January – making it the most above-average month ever measured. (Since the globe had already warmed by about 0.45°C above pre-industrial levels during the 1981-2010 baseline meteorologists commonly use, that amount has been added to the data.)

Stunning rise
Keep in mind that it took from the dawn of the industrial age until October 2015 to reach the first 1.0°C rise. That means we have come as much as an extra 0.4°C further in just the last five months. Even accounting for the margin of error associated with these preliminary datasets, that means it is virtually certain that February beat the record set in January for the most anomalously warm month for the entire globe ever recorded. That’s stunning.

It also means that for many parts of the northern hemisphere, there basically wasn’t a winter. Parts of the Arctic were more than 16°C warmer than average for February, bringing them a few degrees above freezing, on par with typical June temperatures, in what is often the coldest month of the year.

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https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-temperature-breaches-a-terrifying-milestone/
 
Do you have some climate science or just more crap from the deniosphere.

Anyone in denial of AGW these days is pathological. :rolleyes:

What don't you understand about these MEASUREMENTS ....or is it all some conspiracy brewed up in weak minds?...

The numbers are fascinating and kind of disturbing, of the hottest years on record, 15 out of 17 have come since 2000.
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Goddard is being disingenuous to fool the ignorant and gullible, those who repeat his lies, are most often con-men or conned men.
That blog entry is certainly bad science from Goddard.
  • The bad act of joining a graph from 1977 (data from 1957 to 1977) to one from 2015 (data from 1979 to 2015) with no sign of evaluating whether the 2 graphs are plotting compatible data.
    The data is obviously not compatible - the 1977 data was adjusted according to the knowledge available then. A point of this blog entry is that the 2015 data was adjusted differently!
    What is worse is that the graphs do not overlap to provide a check on whether they are compatible.
  • The denier myth about temperature records being purposely adjusted to make them warmer when there are valid scientific reasons to adjust temperature records.
  • Denial of the several confirmations of the hockey stick ("Another hockey stick of data tampering").
  • The incorrectness of "Global warming theory is based on troposphere warming".
    Climate science predicts that a warming Earth as we have measured will produce a warmer troposphere. This is seen by satellites except in the tropics.
  • Does not know how CO2 affects global temperatures.
    No one says that global warming has progressed at a constant rate over the last 58 years because the rate of CO2 increase was not constant. So radiosonde temperatures that start flat and then increases would not actually be a surprise.
 
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