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Originally Posted by Arnold Martin View Post
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The cost of doing nothing to ameliorate the risk of rapid climate change far outweighs the inevitable move to carbon neutral - even Exxon finally admits the risks are serious.
You are in a science forum. Your hillbilly "folksy" language is puerile and fools no one.
Every informed person and certainly the vast majority of climate scientists are alarmed by the continued and even accelerating rate of change.
That you appear to swallow the codswallop that there is a pause in AGW just shows how gullible you are.....or would have us beleive you are......
Every single climate scientist would be thrilled to find a negative feedback in operation that would ameliorate the risk.....there is none of significance.
The atmosphere and oceans continue to warm at a dismaying rate.
We are on track for the highest change scenario by 2100 at the current rate of CO2 emissions.
Where you get the idea that there is no risk of serious consequences from "science" is astonishingly deluded. The only "fury" is at the kind of self serving delusion you exhibit. You and others employed by the fossil fuel industry are either witting or unwitting shills for what at this point has become a right wing political delusion that even most of the responsible fossil fuel companies disown.
What informed people are furious about is disinformation campaigns, and pretend grave concern from people like you who are nothing but fossil fuel shills.
Even Exxon admits the serious risk of climate change....you deny it - say it's not even happening now.
Who is wrong?
does this look like AGW is not continuing to accelerate?
you are very much playing the frog in the pot.....pretending it's not getting warmer.
and month after month in 2014 we set all time records for global temperatures since records began and Australia experienced it's hottest year. Canadian winter temperatures have risen an astonishing 3.3 C in just 60 years.
Species from the tropics are moving into waters they've never been recorded in as the oceans warm.
To be in denial of this is clinical delusion. Get over it - move on to what to do about it which is a very difficult set of policies facing individuals and organizations.
The unfolding consequences, planning for the already established change that will unfold and reducing the change in the future by reducing carbon fuel use all represent difficult challenges....even for nations such as Sweden who are well along to a carbon neutral industrial society.
At this point, your denial view "What me worry" ....well hill billy does come to mind. Dumb hick in less polite terms.
btw
Does CO2 trap IR? it all follows from the physics.
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The Faux news version instead of following the science - that's fairly obvious from your misinformed view.I am not a climate scientist but I have followed all the news releases for the past 30 years or so , as best I can
well that's kinda odd - I've been following the science for 50 years and even the climate scientists were not all that alarmed early on....it was a concern.I started out having great concern if our planet should overheat
What climate science would that be? Moving in a single century to a climate regime not seen in 3 million years + would seem to be a serious risk and the consequences unfold even now very early on in the change curve. Your use of "overheating" is polemic trolling.I find I have great joy when science shows the planet may indeed not be overheating
The cost of doing nothing to ameliorate the risk of rapid climate change far outweighs the inevitable move to carbon neutral - even Exxon finally admits the risks are serious.
I am curious why some folks are furious when the planet does not appear to be overheating
I would like to know why that makes some folks furious
thank you
You are in a science forum. Your hillbilly "folksy" language is puerile and fools no one.
Every informed person and certainly the vast majority of climate scientists are alarmed by the continued and even accelerating rate of change.
That you appear to swallow the codswallop that there is a pause in AGW just shows how gullible you are.....or would have us beleive you are......
Every single climate scientist would be thrilled to find a negative feedback in operation that would ameliorate the risk.....there is none of significance.
The atmosphere and oceans continue to warm at a dismaying rate.
We are on track for the highest change scenario by 2100 at the current rate of CO2 emissions.
Where you get the idea that there is no risk of serious consequences from "science" is astonishingly deluded. The only "fury" is at the kind of self serving delusion you exhibit. You and others employed by the fossil fuel industry are either witting or unwitting shills for what at this point has become a right wing political delusion that even most of the responsible fossil fuel companies disown.
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What informed people are furious about is disinformation campaigns, and pretend grave concern from people like you who are nothing but fossil fuel shills.
Even Exxon admits the serious risk of climate change....you deny it - say it's not even happening now.
Who is wrong?
does this look like AGW is not continuing to accelerate?
you are very much playing the frog in the pot.....pretending it's not getting warmer.
Since 1901, the average surface temperature across the contiguous 48 states has risen at an average rate of 0.14°F per decade (1.4°F per century) (see Figure 1). Average temperatures have risen more quickly since the late 1970s (0.31 to 0.48°F per decade). Seven of the top 10 warmest years on record for the contiguous 48 states have occurred since 1998, and 2012 was the warmest year on record.
Worldwide, 2001-2010 was the warmest decade on record since thermometer-based observations began. Global average surface temperature has risen at an average rate of 0.15°F per decade since 1901 (see Figure 2), similar to the rate of warming within the contiguous 48 states. Since the late 1970s, however, the United States has warmed faster than the global rate.
and month after month in 2014 we set all time records for global temperatures since records began and Australia experienced it's hottest year. Canadian winter temperatures have risen an astonishing 3.3 C in just 60 years.
Species from the tropics are moving into waters they've never been recorded in as the oceans warm.
To be in denial of this is clinical delusion. Get over it - move on to what to do about it which is a very difficult set of policies facing individuals and organizations.
The unfolding consequences, planning for the already established change that will unfold and reducing the change in the future by reducing carbon fuel use all represent difficult challenges....even for nations such as Sweden who are well along to a carbon neutral industrial society.
At this point, your denial view "What me worry" ....well hill billy does come to mind. Dumb hick in less polite terms.
btw
Does CO2 trap IR? it all follows from the physics.
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