General UK politics VII -Return of the Starmer

[Darat]

Braverman still has 24/7 security due to threats

I know she has made threats to many people but isn't it a bit extreme, she is after all only one person?

 

[Nessie]

Sadly, due to a long car journey, I cannot stay up the night of the election. The FT are in any case predicting that it will be about 4am before a Tory gets elected and they are heading for less than 100 seats.

 

[Ethan Thane Athen]

A batch of polls over the last few days show the Reform vote as static, average high teens.

Has Farage hit his ceiling?

I suppose there's only so many gullible bigots.

Depressing that it's that high....

 

[Filippo Lippi]

nm

 

[KDLarsen]

Farrage continues the "I'm not a Putin apologist, but..."-shtick

Speaking at a rally in Devon on Tuesday, Farage said: “Somehow, I am made out to be a Putin apologist, which of course I’m not. What he’s done in Ukraine is reprehensible.

“His Majesty’s Daily Mail, who have decided that I am one of the worst people that’s ever been born, not for the first time, just because I got up over 10 years ago and said that I felt the eastward expansion of Nato and the European Union would be used by a dangerous dictator as a reason to go to war.
..
“In Ukraine, I said, don’t poke the Russian bear with a stick because if you do you will get a very predictable result.”

The Guardian: Farage says Zelenskiy should seek Ukraine peace deal with Russia

Edit: Wasn't sure if it posted the first time, but the whole notion that Georgia and Ukraine joining NATO should have been placed on hold, because Putin could use it as an excuse to invade is, of course, blatantly absurd.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Does anyone know if Nigestradamus made his monumental prediction about Putin and Ukraine before or after Putin began making noises about restoring the traditional borders of Russia and before he occupied Crimea?

Or is he just hoping that no-one notices he's making **** up?

 

[catsmate]

I am quite good at it, I know the Quran fairly well as I have been doing this for over twenty years.

I find this difficult to believe, given your posts here.

I read it after the world trade center attacks. I think Islam is a dangerous cult of fanatics who say they want to rule the world. They have gone a long way towards it and seem to be deliberately invading the west. I criticize them as much as I can in the hope of slowing them down.

Do you waste the same amount of time with Xians who similarly want to impose their weird religious nonsense on everyone?

I will continue to do so even if Keir Starmer makes a blasphemy law.

 

[catsmate]

I think Catsmate posted it at message 1237 but I am not sure if its the right video because I can't get it to work.

Bollocks.
You made the claim regarding Starmer and Khan:

I have seen a video on twitter where he does state that in a discussion with Sadiq Khan.

I, and others, asked you to provide link to this alleged video, or proof it exists. You have refused to do so. I certainly linked to no such video. Frankly I don't believe it exists, that it another of your fabrications,

No! I think that's a different video, but you can see the video I am talking about if you are on twitter (x). Just look up my address @dajjal_dd and it is the second item down on my timeline.

I don't know how to post it here. Maybe someone who is on x can do it.

Provide a link. We have better things to do with our time than wade through your morass of Islamaphobic drivel on TwiX.

 

[catsmate]

Here's what he said in the video.



Where does he say he'll bring in a blasphemy law?

So Scorpion was lying.
Quelle surprise....

 

[catsmate]

Sadly, due to a long car journey, I cannot stay up the night of the election. The FT are in any case predicting that it will be about 4am before a Tory gets elected and they are heading for less than 100 seats.

Are you doing the driving? If not a decent sized tablet and a news steam might be fun.

 

[jeremyp]

Are you doing the driving? If not a decent sized tablet and a news steam might be fun.

Also need a bottle of spirits to play the "Portillo Moment" drinking game.

 

[Dave_46]

Did you know Starmer is contemplating taxing old age pensions?

I do know the (censored) tories have already increased the tax I pay. (freezing thresholds)

 

[KDLarsen]

I'm at a music festival on the 4th (think Glastonbury, but usually more mud - somehow), but I'm seriously contemplating taking a few hours and watching the live coverage as the carnage unfold.

 

[Scorpion]

Well Scorpion?

I note that the video doesn't even remotely say what you claimed, so you're lying again.

Oh! give me a break, I don't tell lies. I already said the person who posted the video on twitter said the following.

"Starmer promises to bring in Blasphemy laws against those who use the "slur" of Islamophobia, online or in person."

I took my view from that statement not from the video itself.

 

[Scorpion]

I, and others, asked you to provide link to this alleged video, or proof it exists. You have refused to do so. I certainly linked to no such video. Frankly I don't believe it exists, that it another of your fabrications,

I posted it at post number 1256

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Oh! give me a break, I don't tell lies. I already said the person who posted the video on twitter said the following.

"Starmer promises to bring in Blasphemy laws against those who use the "slur" of Islamophobia, online or in person."

I took my view from that statement not from the video itself.

Yes, you do and you still only addressed the second part of my post. Stop doing that, it's incredibly rude.

As for the response you did give, you based your view on an unevidenced statement made by some random person on twitter without evidence? Is that really what you're saying?

ETA: Actually this is a lie from you because you claimed that you saw a video of Starmer saying it. So yes Scorpion, you do lie. You just did.

 

[Garrison]

I would have booked Friday off work but alas my colleague is on holiday that week and no one else can cover. Fortunately I will be working from home so if I doze off during the day I can probably get away with it.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

I tweeted @Keir_Starmer on Twitter (x) and told him if he introduces a blasphemy law against islamophobia, as he has stated he may, both for personal attacks and online attacks on Islam . Then I for one am willing to risk imprisonment by continuing to criticize the Quran regardless of his law.

He has never said any such thing.

I have seen a video on twitter where he does state that in a discussion with Sadiq Khan.

Oh! give me a break, I don't tell lies. I already said the person who posted the video on twitter said the following.

"Starmer promises to bring in Blasphemy laws against those who use the "slur" of Islamophobia, online or in person."

I took my view from that statement not from the video itself.

That's a contradiction Scorpion. So you were lying about seeing the video?

 

[Scorpion]

Do you waste the same amount of time with Xians who similarly want to impose their weird religious nonsense on everyone?

Christians have not crashed planes into skyscrapers. They have not tried to take over the middle east and turn it into an Islamic caliphate. And now they have lost that war, Christians are not invading Europe and Britain in droves.

If you people were on twitter you would know how bad it is getting, because people post details of Islamic violence, and their attempts to overwhelm the west.

There are things on twitter you never see on the television news. For example a recent incident in Pakistan was that a horde of Muslims dragged
a tourist out of a police station and burned him alive for desecrating the Quran. These people are fanatics.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Christians have not crashed planes into skyscrapers. They have not tried to take over the middle east and turn it into an Islamic caliphate. And now they have lost that war, Christians are not invading Europe and Britain in droves.

If you people were on twitter you would know how bad it is getting, because people post details of Islamic violence, and their attempts to overwhelm the west.

There are things on twitter you never see on the television news. For example a recent incident in Pakistan was that a horde of Muslims dragged
a tourist out of a police station and burned him alive for desecrating the Quran. These people are fanatics.

Muslims aren't invading the UK and Europe in droves either. Do you not remember the last time you tried this and got your ass handed to you by people who actually knew what they were talking about?