Cont: General UK politics [2]

[Carrot Flower King]

For 'impractical' read 'has a chance of actually impacting one of our chums'

Oh, looky here - https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-committee-over-impractical-second-jobs-rules - the freeloaders don't like it!

This is my favourite bit: One letter, submitted anonymously by an MP, said they did not have enough time to absorb complex rules and that any further change to the rules “creates more witch hunts and fear of which there is already more than enough at Westminster.”

The MP also complained that expense declarations were too onerous for MPs and the consequences of mistaken declarations too great. “The baseline assumption as a new MP, seems to be that I am on the scrounge and should be treated like a child and punished at the first opportunity. If we were treated like adults we would be far more likely en masse to act like them.”


Well, sunshine, maybe folk wouldn't suspect that you are on the scrounge if a whole heap of MPs hadn't done exactly that, and sodding few of you seem to act like adults, so, yes, we need some rules to keep you all in line. And some of these proposals are no more onerous than the rest of the public sector manages to keep up with, so he couldn't be suggesting that most MPs are actually a bit thick? That couldn't be true...

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Seriously, if understanding complex rules and the like are a measure, then Carrot Flower Queen and I should have been on several hundred grand each: I had to understand my professional requirements, trust policies, NICE guidelines and evidence base, the intricacies of clinical issues, quite a number of laws about all manner of things and **** knows what else...

CFQ had a load of that too, but also had to understand the tax system, NI and pension rules.

Shirley, MPs, who, so they keep telling us, work soooooooo hard and are right across all those complex issues and are in no way just lobby fodder, voting how the whips tell them, can understand a few rules to stop them acting like corrupt *******?

 

[Andy_Ross]

so he couldn't be suggesting that most MPs are actually a bit thick? That couldn't be true...

Not hick, just entitled.

 

[jimbob]

He is claiming that it could not be paid before now because of 'sanctions'. By pure coincidence, Johnson has visited the Saudis to secure an oil deal, which I am sure had nothing to do with wanting to keep their Iran pals happy.

How does Johnson do it? Three more brutal executions on the same day as his visit.

THE TIMES


Hasn't quite got the hang of ethics and good governance.

Saudi Arabia and Iran are ideological and religious enemies.

Sunni and Shia theocracies.

 

[Andy_Ross]

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[Vixen]

Not hick, just entitled.

There is one that I know of who is a 'hick'. (Shurely shome mishtake? ~ Ed)



Speaking of which, how is the Met Police 'without fear or favour' investigation of Partygate coming along?

 

[Vixen]

Saudi Arabia and Iran are ideological and religious enemies.

Sunni and Shia theocracies.

Yep, I stand corrected in calling Saudi Arabia and Iran pals because of their oil producing activities and negotiations of bilateral agreements re same.

It can only mean that Boris Johnson was not similarly mistaken and that the sudden payment of the £380m debt to Iran had no connection to his visiting the Saudis for an oil deal - in trying to cut ties with Russian energy suppliers - whatsoever, and the release of six-years-imprisoned for alleged spying Nazanin Ratcliffe. None whatsoever.

Maybe we should give 'Liz' Truss all due credit for having negotiated for Nazanin's release, for all of Truss' vanity and vacuousness. Credit where credit is due.

 

[The Don]

There is one that I know of who is a 'hick'. (Shurely shome mishtake? ~ Ed)



Speaking of which, how is the Met Police 'without fear or favour' investigation of Partygate coming along?

Can't possibly look into something as trivial as "Partygate" when there's a war on dontchaknow

 

[zooterkin]

Maybe we should give 'Liz' Truss all due credit for having negotiated for Nazanin's release, for all of Truss' vanity and vacuousness. Credit where credit is due.

What negotiation was there, beyond paying the money that Iran was demanding?

 

[Vixen]

What negotiation was there, beyond paying the money that Iran was demanding?

Liz Truss made it absolutely clear it was her negotiating skills that brought about Nazanin's and Anoosheh's release. The debt repayment was coincidental.

Liz Truss heaps praise on herself for Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe’s release

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Liz was careful to reserve her greatest praise for herself. In her short six-minute statement, she managed to use the word I at least 15 times. A hymn to her.

It wasn’t entirely clear how Truss had managed to pull off this high-level diplomacy. Though the gist of it seemed to be that she had neither been quite so averse to repaying a legitimate £400m debt nor to having the repayment quite clearly linked to the return of hostages. Indeed she protested extremely loudly that the timing was entirely coincidental and that the Iranians had undertaken only to use the money for humanitarian purposes.

John Crace GUARDIAN

 

[Andy_Ross]

Liz Truss made it absolutely clear it was her negotiating skills that brought about Nazanin's and Anoosheh's release. The debt repayment was coincidental.

John Crace GUARDIAN

Of course it was

 

[Darat]

What negotiation was there, beyond paying the money that Iran was demanding?

How much stilton have they agreed to take?

 

[Darat]

Of course it was

That means she is claiming she is better than Johnson who wasn't up to the job....

 

[Darat]

...snip...

The MP also complained that expense declarations were too onerous for MPs and the consequences of mistaken declarations too great. “The baseline assumption as a new MP, seems to be that I am on the scrounge and should be treated like a child and punished at the first opportunity. If we were treated like adults we would be far more likely en masse to act like them.”


...snip....

Remind me wasn't there a little to-do about MP expenses when it was a honour system?

 

[Andy_Ross]

That means she is claiming she is better than Johnson who wasn't up to the job....

If it hadn't been for Boris' negotiation skills she wouldn't have any negotiating to do.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Remind me wasn't there a little to-do about MP expenses when it was a honour system?

Aye, they got away with ***** that would have had pretty much any other public sector employee sacked and unable to work again, if not prosecuted...

This is something which seems to escape most MPs, even though I have told Tory Girl this on several occasions.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Tory MP Dan Poulter said that MPs second jobs shouldn’t be curtailed because then spending time with his own children might constitute an ‘outside activity’ and he wouldn’t be allowed to do it


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/mp...d-jobs-ban-would-stop-them-seeing-their-kids/

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Tory MP Dan Poulter said that MPs second jobs shouldn’t be curtailed because then spending time with his own children might constitute an ‘outside activity’ and he wouldn’t be allowed to do it


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/mp...d-jobs-ban-would-stop-them-seeing-their-kids/

Wow! his children have to pay him to spend time with them Even for a Tory that's harsh.

 

[Andy_Ross]

On BBC Question Time on thursday, Suella Braverman the Attorney General, said “My father actually was a refugee, I’m the daughter of a refugee.”

This is not true. Her parents emigrated to the UK from Kenya & Mauritius in the 1960s. They were what some would call, “economic migrants”.

 

[Andy_Ross]

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