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Speaking of hoaxes, where's Krege's data, CM?
Which also reminds me -- where's your documentation of a *single* lie on THHP?
*Then* we can get back to the names of of these people surviving because of the ability to shovel and which 9 camps they survived...
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Can I ask him to have a look at things like this, while we wait *then*?
Het Parool 24 April 1945
"Uit den greep der Nazi's gered
Joodsche Nederlanders uit Theresienstadt in Zwitserland aangekomen."
Op 5 Februari j.l. zijn enige honderden Joodsche landgenoten uit Theresienstadt in Bohemen, waar zij door de Duitschers geinterneerd waren in Zwitselland aangekomen. Op welke voorwaarden deze menschen, die om de een of andere reden door de Duitsche misdadigers gespaard zijn, losgelaten werden, is niet bekend gemaakt. Zij vormden slechts een zeer klein percentage van de 120.000 Joodsche Nederlanders die door de Duitschers uit ons land weggesleept en naar Duitsland gebracht werden. De meeste ongeukkigen zijn daar tengevolge van honger en ontbering, in de steengroeven van Mauthausen of in de gaskamers van Auschwitz om het leven gekomen. Er kan dan ook niet aan getwijfeld worden dat de meesten hunner land nooit meer zullen terugzien.
Scans of the pages can be found here:
http://www.hetillegaleparool.nl/archief/1945/450424-1.php
My translation of the excerpt from this -at the time still- underground paper "Het Parool" published in the Netherlands, on April 24, 1945, while the country is still partially occupied. The issue contains lists of names of survivors.
Saved from the grasp of the nazis - Dutch Jews from Theresienstadt arrive in Switzerland.
5 February last, several hundred Jewish compatriots from Theresienstadt in Bohemia, where they had been interned by the Germans, arrived in Switzerland. Under which conditions these people, who for one reason or an other had been spared by the German criminals, were released has not been announced. They are a very small percentage of the 120.000 Dutch Jews who had been dragged out of our country by the Germans and deported to Germany. Most of the unfortunates perished there due to hunger and depravation, in the quarries of Mauthausen or in the gas chambers of Auschwitz. There can be no doubt that the vast majority will never see their country again.
Research continued but put that on your timeline, ClaytonMoore, if you have some moments to spare from not analyzing prefaces and non-nuanced looks at paragraphs on pages 86 etc. Back in 1945 they didn't see a conflict between the existence of a small number of survivors and death camps. Notice how stone quarries of Mauthausen and gas chambers of Auschwitz are mentioned in the same sentence? Any thoughts on that? Does phrasing it that way conflict with your version of history? I ask because I can assure you it doesn't conflict with mine.
Lists with names of survivors found in Theresienstadt were also transcribed here:
http://www.vernoeming.nl/de-nederlandse-overlevenden-van-theresienstadt
Do you think ClaytonMoore can tell us something about their relatives, TSR? Some who may have escaped deportation - through marriage or indeed onderduik. Some who may likewise have survived various camps under various conditions although the vast majority indeed perished.
When responding to queries by remaining relatives and friends, of those who had perished in Auschwitz, the Dutch Red Cross summarized the causes of death as follows in many of their standard letters:
"Gasverstikking" [asphyxiation by gas] or " Ziekte, uitputting of Vergassing"[illness, exhaustion or asphyxiation by gas]
Mistakes were made from time to time but -as the example below shows- were also corrected by the same authorities. Translation of the headline: "Murdered in Auschwitz? Maybe not". about the discovery that a person who had supposedly died in Auschwitz had actually survived. Showing how the municipal government of Amsterdam had corrected a personal registration card:
http://www.vernoeming.nl/vermoord-in-auschwitz-of-toch-niet
What does someone like ClaytonMoore, LGR or Saggy contribute to this process of research and revision? Nothing of value that I can see.
The site also has a transcript of an early list of Auschwitz survivors published in "Paraat" May 6, 1945
http://www.vernoeming.nl/bevrijd-in-auschwitz-de-nederlandse-overlevenden
A scan of the original list in Paraat can be seen online here:
http://www.oorlogskranten.nl/k0077_14.html
There are some people named Cohen on those lists. Returned alive from the camps. Can we assume LGR took them into account while mumbling taunts about annexes? There are some people named Verduin [Sophia], van Praag and Veterman on those lists. We know Holocaust deniers misinterpret their survival while simultaneously pretending such data about their survival doesn't exist. Or isn't talked about here or isn't published elsewhere while they're pointed to spoken and written records. How does that work? Not everything can be found in less than 17 minutes but a lot can these days. For whose benefit are such claims made? Not you or I, that's for sure, but who then?
It's telling that the resident deniers have to resort to picking on the foreword of a book rather than its contents.
