First of all, imprecise or vague thinking would cause imprecise or vague wording. Imprecise or vague wording doesn't cause imprecise or vague thinking. Second of all, by your precise definition of the holocaust, everybody here is a holocaust denier. Nobody says the holocaust is the systematic slaughter of six million Jews in Nazi gas chambers during WWII.
Look, you are dancing around the fact that you completely misused the word as I pointed out. The dictionary definition of holocaust is clear, the planned slaughter blah blah blah. You said Heddesheimer didn't lay out a plan for it. Of course he didn't, you're misusing the word.
Then what he is doing is documenting how individual Jews and Jewish organizations in powerful positions spread disinformation throughout the twentieth century. That's not a Jewish conspiracy.
That is precisely a Jewish conspiracy.
And the disinformation that was published didn't always say Jews were being slaughtered. Sometimes they were in danger of being slaughtered. It didn't specifically say gas chambers. It didn't always say it was state-sponsored. It wasn't always Germany. IIRC it was Russia and Poland until 1933.
Reading the press during the twentieth century would give you the impression that the Jews of Europe were on the verge of annihilation. Their sky was always falling. If you pay attention to the annual reports published by the ADL, their sky is still always falling. That's not a conspiracy.
That is precisely a conspiracy. The Jews are publishing false info in the Jewish controlled/owned press which includes the NYT.
Jews are disproportionally represented in positions of power. They have a disproportionate share of the wealth. Why is that? Judaism values learning and scholarship. Kids who grow up in families that value learning and scholarship do well in school. Kids who do well in school get into better colleges. They graduate and get higher paying jobs with greater responsibility and power. That's not a conspiracy.
What you have not described is not a conspiracy, but Jews hiring Jews, Jews financing Jews, Jews collaborating to control industries, etc., is all a conspiracy.
When I went to Philadelphia I visited Betsy Ross' house. I thought that the ceilings are awfully low but I didn't doubt that this was actually Betsy Ross' house. When I went to Auschwitz I saw a free standing chimney next to an air raid shelter and I believed it was a gas chamber because that's what I was told. I thought the place had a vague ersatz feel to it--kind of like Death Camp Land at Disneyworld--but I didn't think "this is a fake." I just thought something was not quite right. I saw some people there who were obviously Jewish. They were moved emotionally in a way that I was not. I seriously doubt they were laughing inside at how they tricked the stupid goyim as they shed their crocodile tears. There's no conspiracy whereby all the Jews in the world know that the holocaust is actually the holohoax. They believe it for the same reason non-Jews believe it: they're told it happened and they're not told some of the specific details that would make them question it.
But if they're participating in a hoax without knowing it is a hoax, you can't accuse them of nefarious intent. If they're willing participants in a conspiracy to promote a hoax, by definition they have to know it is a hoax. The people behind the scenes who promote criminalizing questioning the holocaust should be aware that they're doing something that shouldn't need to be done. Truth doesn't need legislation. They are legitimate targets of your anger. So are the morons who deny holocaust denial legislation. But those are individuals. I wonder how many Jews in America are even aware that denial is illegal in other countries.
The Jews created the hoax, they have the responsibility for ending it. Of course they will not, they benefit from it greatly. If they suspect it's a hoax they banish those thoughts. If you call it a hoax they will banish you if it's in their power. Every Jewish academic participates in the hoax.
We're arguing semantics but that isn't surprising. Nobody--especially the holocaust promoters--can give you a definition of the holocaust. To me, the holocaust is what happened to the Jews in Europe during WWII. Part of that is knowing what happened in the camps and why the conditions were what they were. I know how the facts on the ground were twisted into what I think you call the holohoax. I just don't see an organized Jewish conspiracy behind it all. I see victorious Allies wanting to justify their anger towards the Germans. Jews were involved but it wasn't all the Jews and it wasn't only the Jews.
You see the gas chamber at Auschwitz as all the evidence you need of the hoax. I agree that it's pretty pathetic but that's because I am aware it is a fake. When I saw it 1992, I wasn't aware it was a fake. When I saw Dachau in 1980 I didn't question the gas chambers. A vague explanation of how these places worked was enough for me. If somebody had tried to explain how they disposed of all the bodies I might have been more skeptical. That's probably why they don't go into those details. I know how the USHMM, the SWMOT, and all the other holocaust remembrance icons promote the holocaust through emotion based tripe without any factual details. I know that the Jewish community supports these efforts. I just don't see an intentional conspiracy behind it all.
The hoax gas chamber is not pathetic, it is criminal, it is degenerate, it is the most despicable hoax that has ever been perpetrated. Either the Nazis committed a monstrous and horrific crime in attempting to exterminate the Jews, or the Jews are telling monstrous and degenerate lies in saying that they did.
When I hear you say 'conspiracy' I think of something along the lines of an intelligent design behind the holocaust. I see the holocaust as evolutionary. If there was a conspiracy behind the holocaust or holohoax, when did they drop the steam chambers in favor of the gas chambers? Why did they give the steam chambers the IMT seal of approval to begin with? Why did they say a million and a half were murdered at Madjanek and then drop the death toll to somewhere around less than a hundred thousand or wherever it is today? Why did they say four and half million Allied nationals were murdered at Auschwitz during the Zyklon B trials and then drop the number to four million for about forty years before settling on one million or so. After the number was dropped to one million, why did they come up with the explanation that when it was four million, a quarter of the victims were Jewish but now that it's one million, all the victims were Jewish? And nobody ever believed it was four million anyway. Why were Jews turned into lampshades and bars of soap after the war but now nobody ever said they were? The holocaust has been in a state of constant flux from the beginning. I think if there was a conspiracy behind the holocaust it would have been thought out. We wouldn't see the holocaust industry playing whack-a-mole with the deniers like we do.
The holohoax evolved, that's clear. That doesn't mean it's an urban myth. It was a deliberate hoax conceived by Jews in the World Jewish and Jews in high positions in the US and Europe. It evolved with the circumstances and with opportunities presented. It was not passive, it was active, particularly in post war Europe and in the Nuremberg trials. And it continues to be active today with endless hoax news articles, the USHMM, etc.
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