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Gene Alley said:
This little demonstration seems to confirm that there may well be some serious logistical problems with that part of the "generally accepted" narrative.

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Any comments?
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Yes. Where is your list of valid points made by deniers in this thread?
 
Gene Alley said:
Count this as #1

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I'll be back with more later, thanks.
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So, what does your Jewish friend say about you denying the holocaust? Because if you think that link is a valid argument (a link isn't an argument, by the way) you are a holocaust denier.
 
uke2se said:
So, what does your Jewish friend say about you denying the holocaust? Because if you think that link is a valid argument (a link isn't an argument, by the way) you are a holocaust denier.
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Many of the valid points I referred to in my initial post were brought up by revisionists on this thread who challenged the accepted narrative of the holocaust have done so by ciiting logistical problems which are part of the historical record. The link I provided is an illustrated demonstration of a common theme that several of those on this thread have argued effectively regarding logistical problems with some of the scholarly work that is generally accepted.
 
Clayton Moore said:
There you go.:)
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Why do you speak in riddles?

TSR said:
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No, the issue is CM trying to defend Sagg's assumption that RJvP is *not* Jewish, based on "it doesn't sound like a Jewish name".
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It seems so. Seems he hasn't learned from the last name debacle. :rolleyes: Care to provide some evidence that Dutch Jews don't use the given name "Jan", Clayton?

BTW, Jan is only his second given name. Combinations of two given names, the second being Jan, are very popular in Holland: Henk-Jan, Piet-Jan, Robert-Jan, Klaas-Jan, etc. etc., with or without hyphen.

Doctor Evil said:
Why would it matter if Van Pelt is Jewish or not? (He is Jewish as far as I know.)

Raising the issue just highlight that our deniers have trouble tacking his scholarship. It highlights other things too...
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Apparently it matters to the deniers. The matter hasn't crossed my mind a second before it came up. His scholarship is the only thing that matters.

Cyrix686 said:
I have a question. Why do Holocaust deniers have to put everything in inverted commas? It makes them look like mental-cases.
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That they have a perverted view of a certain part of history doesn't preempt that they have a lucid view of themselves. :boxedin:
 
little grey rabbit said:
For me the useful outcomes were the letter that Wroclaw found about the crematorium were to be provisional - cf the Provisional Bakery.
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You will of course be showing the evidence that these were bakeries. Transport documents for large quantities of flour, purchase documents for cooling racks, that sort of thing will be acceptable. Maybe some photos of an oven with that days produce just coming out.
I also look forward to your explanation of how industrial scale baking was done in ovens with no discernable method of temperature control.
 
Gene Alley said:
Many of the valid points I referred to in my initial post were brought up by revisionists on this thread who challenged the accepted narrative of the holocaust have done so by ciiting logistical problems which are part of the historical record. The link I provided is an illustrated demonstration of a common theme that several of those on this thread have argued effectively regarding logistical problems with some of the scholarly work that is generally accepted.
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Really, I can't remember any point being raised by other "revisionists" since your advent here - especially not any logistical problem. Would you care to (re)phrase it for our convenience?
 
Gene Alley said:
Many of the valid points I referred to in my initial post were brought up by revisionists on this thread who challenged the accepted narrative of the holocaust have done so by ciiting logistical problems which are part of the historical record. The link I provided is an illustrated demonstration of a common theme that several of those on this thread have argued effectively regarding logistical problems with some of the scholarly work that is generally accepted.
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The link you provided is full of lies and thoroughly debunked by real historians, but you knew that, didn't you?

The "logistical problems" have been dealt with in the thread. Now, before you lose all your credibility, please list the "valid points" made by deniers in this thread, and answer the many questions put to you since your first post. If you do not, consider yourself exposed as a liar, a denier and a troll.
 
uke2se said:
So, what does your Jewish friend say about you denying the holocaust? Because if you think that link is a valid argument (a link isn't an argument, by the way) you are a holocaust denier.
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Of course Gene has a Jewish friend. Even the SS officers all had their "good Jew", see Himmler's Poznan speech:
Und dann kommen sie alle, alle die braven 80 Millionen Deutschen, und jeder hat seinen anständigen Juden. Sagt: alle anderen sind Schweine, und hier ist ein prima Jude.
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Why would Himmler say the Nazis tried to exterminate the Jews, when it wasn't true? :rolleyes:
 
ddt said:
Really, I can't remember any point being raised by other "revisionists" since your advent here - especially not any logistical problem. Would you care to (re)phrase it for our convenience?
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In my initial post here I indicated that I had been following this and other threads regarding this topic for months. Many points were raised in that period challenging the logistical impossibility/improbability of some assertions made by holocaust scholars.

No I would not, thanks.
 
Gene Alley said:
In my initial post here I indicated that I had been following this and other threads regarding this topic for months. Many points were raised in that period challenging the logistical impossibility/improbability of some assertions made by holocaust scholars.

No I would not, thanks.
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You did claim that, however, much of what you've written in your posts here indicate you don't have a firm grasp of what has been dealt with. And as long as you keep with vague assertions of "logistical impossibility" without any specificity, I cannot but conclude you don't have a point at all.

ETA: Have you only come here to tell us that, or have you come here to debate those issues? If it's the latter, you should articulate on which topics you want to debate. Or are you just afraid we wipe the floor with your arguments as has been done with all other deniers before? :rolleyes:
 
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ddt said:
Why would Himmler say the Nazis tried to exterminate the Jews, when it wasn't true? :rolleyes:
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Because when Nazis don't say "exterminate" directly and use euphamisms, they don't mean exterminate. And, when like Himmler they use "exterminate" directly, they don't mean exterminate but relocate, expell, etc. It is a neat verbal trick.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Ah yes. Anyone who disagrees with what Jewish people say or advocate automatically hates Jewish people.


The Holocaust has little to with the past. It has to do with enabling Zionists and their neocon henchmen to get away with anything.
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Not anything the Jews would say. Do try to use any intelligence that you may have,try and keep up. If you deny the Holocaust then you hate Jews. I am not commenting on anything else a Jew might say. Is that simple enough for you?
 
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