General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

[Saggy]

IIRC a locked account means a serious violation of basic rules . . . shocking, I know . . .

I think it was violating the shabbat.

 

[Saggy]

I hadn't wanted to switch gears so fast, so this is a one off for the time being ...

COMPELLING EVIDENCE FOR THE HOLOCAUST HOAX

An interview with Dina Babbitt, who taught kindergarten to Jewish children in Auschwitz ...

Jewish Survivor Dina Gottliebova-Babbitt Testimony Part 1
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[LemmyCaution]

I think it was violating the shabbat.

Naw, it's not observed there. Think harder.

 

[Dash80]

I hadn't wanted to switch gears so fast, so this is a one off for the time being ...

COMPELLING EVIDENCE FOR THE HOLOCAUST HOAX

An interview with Dina Babbitt, who taught kindergarten to Jewish children in Auschwitz ...

Jewish Survivor Dina Gottliebova-Babbitt Testimony Part 1
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You do know that for a period of time, there was a family camp for Jews deported from Theresienstadt? It was set up as an effort by the Nazis to dispel rumours about Auschwitz.

Jews in the family camp wore their own clothes, did not have their hair shaved off, did not work, were permitted to write (heavily censored) postcards and even allowed to organise their own activities.

 

[Saggy]

Naw, it's not observed there. Think harder.

Hey, I learned my lesson. I don't violate it here.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Hey, I learned my lesson. I don't violate it here.

????

 

[Saggy]

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COMPELLING EVIDENCE FOR THE HOLOHOAX

Stanisława Leszczyńska

I gotta admit, this one surprised me .....

"Stanisława Leszczyńska (May 8, 1896 – March 11, 1974) was a Polish midwife who was incarcerated at the Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II, where she delivered over 3,000 children.[1][2] She is an official candidate for canonization (sainthood) by the Catholic Church.[2] Several hospitals and organizations in Europe are named after Stanisława; the main road at Auschwitz concentration camp museum is named after her; and so is a street in the city of Łódź.[3]"

 

[Dash80]

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COMPELLING EVIDENCE FOR THE HOLOHOAX

Stanisława Leszczyńska

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I gotta admit, this one surprised me .....

"Stanisława Leszczyńska (May 8, 1896 – March 11, 1974) was a Polish midwife who was incarcerated at the Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II, where she delivered over 3,000 children.[1][2] She is an official candidate for canonization (sainthood) by the Catholic Church.[2] Several hospitals and organizations in Europe are named after Stanisława; the main road at Auschwitz concentration camp museum is named after her; and so is a street in the city of Łódź.[3]"

Saggy, Jews were not the only people in Auschwitz, Polish women were also imprisoned there. Poles were sometimes allowed to keep their babies, and your "evidence" is a POLISH midwife.

Nice try but no cookie for you.

Also:

Stanisława met Dr Mengele,[3] and was advised to euthanize the newborns she delivered. She did not comply. Leszczyńska did not kill a single child, and whenever possible, used to wrap them up in scraps of fabric or paper and put them under the mother's rough blankets.

Even if some of those babies were Jewish, she went against orders and tried to save and hide them.

 

[Saggy]

Saggy, Jews were not the only people in Auschwitz, Polish women were also imprisoned there. Poles were generally allowed to keep their babies, and your "evidence" is a POLISH midwife.

Nice try but no cookie for you.

Nope. Game over. It's getting more difficult to deal with the degenerate lies of the Zionists.

"Stanisława met Dr Mengele,[3] and was advised to euthanize the newborns she delivered. She did not comply."

Is there no absurdity you will not stoop to?

 

[LemmyCaution]

You seem not to know much.

I cannot find the figure 3,000 registered live births in Kubica’s chapter of the Auschwitz Museum's 5-volume camp history. Kubica says that because camp records are not complete, it is impossible to estimate a number (Auschwitz, vol II, p 241). (An article written by a journalist for Seattle Catholic does not carry the same weight as research done by an Auschwitz historian, ditto with the recollections you're relying on, just sayin'.)

Early in Auschwitz’s history women discovered to be pregnant were simply put to death, either by phenol injection or as part of a group in the gas chambers (p 267). In the rare case in which a non-Jewish woman did give birth, her pregnancy having been undiscovered, both women and child were killed by SS physicians or orderlies using lethal injection. This murder was part of action 14f13; when that action was halted in early 1943, for some months pregnant prisoners and mothers were no longer murdered - rather, newborns were killed (p 268). By around June, the newborns were no longer killed but kept with their non-Jewish mothers - most dying due to camp conditions. Kubica notes that non-Jewish children continued to be killed despite the new rules (p 278). Birth certificates were issued (giving the place of birth as Auschwitz Kasernenstrasse,” not KL), and the children were tattooed (but not children of German prisoners) with a camp serial number. Generally, births were registered. Deliveries took place in barrack 24 in Birkenau. Mothers had to return to work very quickly after giving birth (pp 268-270). The birthing room had “no bandages or antiseptics of any kind; there were none of the required medications and there was not even a sufficient quantity of water to wash the mother and infant after birth.”

Expectant mothers often traded their regular rations for a sheet from which to fashion diapers for the newborn. There were no special food supplies for these children; in the light of all this, mortality of the newborns was extreme (p 272-273).

Officially, pregnant women were not to be sent to the KLs, but this rule was flouted routinely (p 239).

The situation differed for Jewish women. Kubica writes that many of the children born to Jewish women at Auschwitz were not recorded at all. In fact, “Until as late as November 1944, such children [born to Jewish women] were killed immediately after birth and never registered officially.” However, eight Jewish infants were registered during 1944. (p 241) Jewish children had no right to live - and were generally immediately after birth drowned or given a lethal injection (p 273).

This is still having to do with Birkenau, and there, in the Theresienstadt family camp, infants born to the Jewish women (number unknown) were allowed to survive until mass executions of the families. In the transit camp, women who were pregnant were given forced abortions; births were not permitted. OTOH children born in the camp for Roma (p 242) were all registered - and there was a maternity ward in the “Gypsy” camp.

In total, in all of Birkenau, Kubica is able to count 680 live births from 1943 to 1945. 8 of these children were released when their mothers, and only 46 survived the war.

 

[Dash80]

Nope. Game over. It's getting more difficult to deal with the degenerate lies of the Zionists.

Stanisława met Dr Mengele,[3] and was advised to euthanize the newborns she delivered. She did not comply. Leszczyńska did not kill a single child, and whenever possible, used to wrap them up in scraps of fabric or paper and put them under the mother's rough blankets.

Your "evidence" is a POLISH woman who went against the orders given to her by a Nazi doctor and attempted to save children. NOWHERE does it mention the children were even Jewish!

 

[LemmyCaution]

Nope. Game over. It's getting more difficult to deal with the degenerate lies of the Zionists.

"Stanisława met Dr Mengele,[3] and was advised to euthanize the newborns she delivered. She did not comply."

Is there no absurdity you will not stoop to?

You cite a Wikipedia article, which relies on a Catholic publication and a Polish midwife's recollection - and yet rant about "lies of the Zionists"! LOL

 

[Dash80]

You cite a Wikipedia article, which relies on a Catholic publication and a Polish midwife's recollection - and yet rant about "lies of the Zionists"! LOL

Even funnier is that a Polish midwife is both evidence of a hoax and a Zionist lie at the same time. Her account is "absurd" yet is supposed to prove the holocaust didn't happen. LOL

 

[Saggy]

Early in Auschwitz’s history women discovered to be pregnant were simply put to death,

There is simply no lie the holocaust liars will not tell.

The game is over. The lies of the holohoax are absolutely astounding.

 

[LemmyCaution]

There is simply no lie the holocaust liars will not tell.

The game is over. The lies of the holohoax are absolutely astounding.

Your inability to post anything meaningful and substantive is legendary.

 

[BStrong]

There is simply no lie the holocaust liars will not tell.

The game is over. The lies of the holohoax are absolutely astounding.

And the delusional that believe the holocaust didn't take place will never rest in their quest to clear the good name of national douchebagism, er, socialism.

Shouldn't you be at the pointy-hat softball league (slow-pitch) Thursday night game?

Isn't it the Mighty Fightin' Whiteys v the Kracker Klap Krew?

 

[Dash80]

There is simply no lie the holocaust liars will not tell.

The game is over. The lies of the holohoax are absolutely astounding.

Even if Hitler himself came back from the dead and told you the holocaust happened, you'd still be stuffing your fingers in your ears and waving your hands.

 

[LemmyCaution]

There is simply no lie the holocaust liars will not tell.

See, the thing is that Kubica cites a study by Julian Kiwala ("'Szpital' w obozie żeńskim w Brzezince na przełomie lat 1942-1943" in Przeglad Lekarski-Oświęcim 1) to support her point that "Early in Auschwitz’s history women discovered to be pregnant were simply put to death," mentioning that one of the orderlies doing these killings was Hans Nzierzwicki and that the children of women from Zamosc were among those put to death by lethal injections (p 268); for her further point that the practices changed (halt to killing of pregnant woman and new mothers) in 1943, Kubica cites the following: Glucks' order of 27 April 1943 on Aktion 14f13 (PS-1933), testimony of Jan Olbrycht (APMAB, v 76, p 164), and a secondary work.

I have not read Kubica's sources. Have you? Have you even read Kubica?

You cited nothing in calling Kubica a liar.

What is your basis for calling Kubica a "holocaust liar"?

 

[LeoMajor]

I think it was violating the shabbat.

Lame

 

[LeoMajor]

Nope. Game over. It's getting more difficult to deal with the degenerate lies of the Zionists.

"Stanisława met Dr Mengele,[3] and was advised to euthanize the newborns she delivered. She did not comply."

Is there no absurdity you will not stoop to?

Dude, did you even read the very testimony that you are quoting? Stanisława is a plainly Polish name in every sense of the word - NOT Jewish, which makes sense in accordance with what we know about the camp, as Dash pointed out.
Anything else?