General Holocaust Denial Discussion Part II

[000063]

I'd say controlling the world makes them pretty darn uber.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Oh, Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick: This again?

Always ready with an anti Christian slur.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Then you should be able to document where they all went. That they were shipped to the death camps is more than amply documented, why not after that?

They didn't arrive there to begin with.

 

[BaaBaa]

Always ready with an anti Christian slur.

Technically, it's blasphemy; saying, "Christians are mendacious jerks." is a slur.

 

[LSSBB]

Always ready with an anti Christian slur.

You kidding? I've heard Christians say that.

 

[TSR]

They didn't arrive there to begin with.

So when did they exit the trains, and what evidence do you offer in support of this?

And you ducked this again: Which specific "rules of social and legal fairness" did Anne Frank "throw out the window"? Korczak and his kids?

Why haven't you owned up to your lie that "even historians ... had to admit that no ... mass exterminations took place in the German camps on German soil". Are we all just supposed to ignore that whole Vernichtung durch Arbeit thing just because you haven't been spoon fed a response?

Or pointed out a single lie on the THHP website.

Or bothered to support your lie that "Most, way above 90%, died of disease."

You even posted Faurisson's lie that "Elie Wiesel ... is generally accepted as a witness to ... the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers...." when Buna, the camp he was in, has never been said to have gas chambers.

And one more: why is it that only supposed lies by Jews matter?

 

[floghammer]

Funny, I was watching a YouTube video the other day. It was Ahmed Tibi, MD, who has been a member of the Knesset in Israel for around a decade,* maybe more, and he was addressing the Knesset on Yom ha-Shoah and telling the story of a woman who survived Auschwitz because, although she had been "chosen" by Mengele at the ramp when she got to Birkenau, one of Mengele's assistants, a Jew, prevented her from being killed by fudging her files. She was sent for labor instead. When they encountered each other years later in Israel, she hated the doctor for being a collaborator; it was only then that she found out he's saved her life. They got married.**

He too did not look the other way.

Others, like Myklos Nyszli (sp?) collaborated more or less, but under the threat of death, which evokes the question (yet again) of whether Clayton has ever had a gun to his head.




*To the chagrin of our resident Jew-haters, Israel remains among a small minority of countries with Arab populations of 20% or more in which those Arabs can actually vote and be represented in the government.

** After the video, Tibi was interviewed by Yair Lapid (who may go on to be PM of Israel someday), and he discussed the need for Palestinians to appreciate what the Jews have been through as a people to understand why they are so invested in Israel, noting as well two things: (1) It is wrong to compare what the Palestinians have been through to the Holocaust, as the Holocaust was infinitely worse; and (2) Nevertheless, it is the duty of the Israelis to appreciate what they have put the Palestinians through, as it's the only way to achieve peace. Tibi is a good, good man, of inestimable character. There should be more Israelis, Jews and Arabs both, like him.

Does Ahmed Tibi MD tell us the name of this remarkable couple? That story sounds completely made up.

 

[floghammer]

Your own article acknowledges this is a very small extremist wing. Yet you treat as confirmation that ALL Jews view non Jews as subhuman.


You have not proven your point.

Have you heard tell the secret motive of Holocaust Deniers is rehabilitating Naziism? Do you believe it? Why?

 

[Clayton Moore]

Have you heard tell the secret motive of Holocaust Deniers is rehabilitating Naziism? Do you believe it? Why?

I'd say between pretending they believe the Holocaust myth and that 9/11 wasn't an inside job they may explode trying to believe even one more fabrication.

 

[Clayton Moore]

And one more: why is it that only supposed lies by Jews matter?

Vested interest in the Holocaust cash cow.

 

[TSR]

Vested interest in the Holocaust cash cow.

And yet those with a "vested interest" in the "Holohoax" cash cow like, oh, Irving, Zundel, Faurisson, Rudolf... *they* all get passes?

And really -- what about *your* lies -- they're okay because you don't have a "vested interest" when it's quite clear your vested interest is in rehabilitating National Socialism so you can sit in front of your screen and cheer while someone else finishes the job (and then someone *else* tells you what you should 'think' about it)?

Keep running, oh brave defender of only some things German -- keep running.

Running from these:

When did the Jews exit the trains, and what evidence do you offer in support of this?

Which specific "rules of social and legal fairness" did Anne Frank "throw out the window"? Korczak and his kids?

Your lie that "even historians ... had to admit that no ... mass exterminations took place in the German camps on German soil".

Are we all just supposed to ignore that whole Vernichtung durch Arbeit thing just because you haven't been spoon fed a response?

How many people died at Sachsenhausen, and what rules did each of them throw out?

Has someone spoon fed you a single lie on the THHP website?

How do you know that "most, way above 90%, died of disease."

And what about (speaking of cash cows) Faurisson's lie that "Elie Wiesel ... is generally accepted as a witness to ... the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers...." when Buna, the camp he was in, has never been said to have gas chambers?

 

[Clayton Moore]

And yet those with a "vested interest" in the "Holohoax" cash cow like, oh, Irving, Zundel, Faurisson, Rudolf... *they* all get passes?

And really -- what about *your* lies -- they're okay because you don't have a "vested interest" when it's quite clear your vested interest is in rehabilitating National Socialism so you can sit in front of your screen and cheer while someone else finishes the job (and then someone *else* tells you what you should 'think' about it)?

Keep running, oh brave defender of only some things German -- keep running.

Running from these:

When did the Jews exit the trains, and what evidence do you offer in support of this?

Which specific "rules of social and legal fairness" did Anne Frank "throw out the window"? Korczak and his kids?

Your lie that "even historians ... had to admit that no ... mass exterminations took place in the German camps on German soil".

Are we all just supposed to ignore that whole Vernichtung durch Arbeit thing just because you haven't been spoon fed a response?

How many people died at Sachsenhausen, and what rules did each of them throw out?

Has someone spoon fed you a single lie on the THHP website?

How do you know that "most, way above 90%, died of disease."

And what about (speaking of cash cows) Faurisson's lie that "Elie Wiesel ... is generally accepted as a witness to ... the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers...." when Buna, the camp he was in, has never been said to have gas chambers?

You haven't a clue of physical and logistical impossibility of your Holocaust fabrications.

And your acceptance of all those notorious Holocaust liars with Steven and Elie and Simon at the forefront is so, so telling.

 

[Wroclaw]

Does Ahmed Tibi MD tell us the name of this remarkable couple? That story sounds completely made up.

Judge for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_aR9MkvnRk

 

[Clayton Moore]

You kidding? I've heard Christians say that.

I doubt it.

I never heard it.

Besides, writing it isn't a spontaneous curse.

The guy writes it to get away with an anti Christian slur. If I were to write a Jewish version of it I'd get banned post haste.

 

[LSSBB]

I doubt it.

I never heard it.

Besides, writing it isn't a spontaneous curse.

The guy writes it to get away with an anti Christian slur. If I were to write a Jewish version of it I'd get banned post haste.

Well, as a Christian I am not offended, and I don't need you to protect my delicate ears. Maybe it escaped your attention when it was said, not the first time something escaped your attention.

 

[TSR]

You haven't a clue of physical and logistical impossibility of your Holocaust fabrications.

*I* have no "Holocaust fabrications" -- that would be you, as demonstrated by all those lies from which you keep running.

Nor is the normative understanding of the Holocaust "impossible" except inside your own head. You simply saying "German's wouldn't do that" doesn't make it impossible, since all available evidence shows that they did.

And your acceptance of all those notorious Holocaust liars with Steven and Elie and Simon at the forefront is so, so telling.

Well, since I have not expressed any such acceptance, nor have you proven any such lies, I will have to say that it is not as telling as *your* acceptance of the lies of Faurrison, Rudolf, Moran, and Krege -- not to mention SnakeTongue and Saggs, let alone your own lies...

You know the lies I'm referring to, because you quoted them, and I'm about to again (so you can show what a brave defender of only *some* things German you are) :

When did the Jews exit the trains, and what evidence do you offer in support of this physical and logistical impossibility?

Which specific "rules of social and legal fairness" did Anne Frank "throw out the window"? Korczak and his kids? Given that most of these were minors, throwing out legal rules would be a logistical and judicial impossibility.

Your lie that "even historians ... had to admit that no ... mass exterminations took place in the German camps on German soil". The existence of Sachsenhausen alone shows this to be an impossibility (except in the case of a particularly inept historian such a Faurisson).

Are we all just supposed to ignore that whole Vernichtung durch Arbeit thing just because you haven't been spoon fed a response? It's a physical and logistical impossibility that your almost complete ignorance of the actual history which you are so rabid to deny could be made up for by such spoon feeding.

How many people died at Sachsenhausen, and what rules did each of them throw out? See above re: impossibilities

Has someone spoon fed you a single lie on the THHP website? Because that's a physical and logistical impossibility given that there are none.

How do you know that "most, way above 90%, died of disease." It's a physical and logistical impossibility that you could know this for certain, since many victims were never registered and so their COD was not recorded. But even your cherised Soviet Death Books (funny how evidence from that quarter is acceptable, if it seems to help justify your hate) contradict this.

And what about (speaking of cash cows) Faurisson's lie that "Elie Wiesel ... is generally accepted as a witness to ... the legendary Nazi extermination gas chambers...." when Buna, the camp he was in, has never been said to have gas chambers? Isn't that sort of ... how did that go again? A physical and logistical impossibility?

Run, Clayton -- Run.

 

[TSR]

I never heard it.

But then, you like to suggest that you were on the front lines and had never heard the term REMF, either.

A quick Google of the term as written bring up 30,000+ results, including the Urban Dictionary.

 

[FluffyPersian]

Jewish veterans went to the 'nice' camps like Theresienstadt, as a 'thank you for your service". But you knew this, of course?

From what I've read, only highly decorated or wounded Jewish vets got that particular "thank you" gesture.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Well, as a Christian I am not offended, and I don't need you to protect my delicate ears. Maybe it escaped your attention when it was said, not the first time something escaped your attention.

You couldn't care less if your religion is debased but you're all offended and outraged about someone's version of history.

 

[Spui]

Always ready with an anti Christian slur.

Well, since you think it's a slur against Jews to believe that they kept going to the camps when they knew what was going on, it's also a slur against Christians to believe that they kept going to the Gulag when they knew what was going on. I think you're anti-Christian, Clayton.