Sunstealer
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You'd need another 400°C plus to see that and those temperatures are just too high. The inner part of the steel would see much higher temperatures and therefore would destroy the microstructures observed. We would see far more dissolution of the pearlite bands.we dont know the temp of the slag but if it was hot enough to "melt" the steel that has already passed the a3 line close to the slag, then all it would do is cool to the austenite after it had "melted".
Define "a little" and "a lot". You can roughly measure the amount of liquid seen using the scale in the photo-micrographs.do ya think alittle "liquid" or alot of liquid is needed to accomplish this?
No and no. We see no evidence of a gray layer melted into the steel.true.....
thought experiment:
do you think the oxygen in the fe2o3 (gray layer) in jones red chips would do anything. that is assuming the chips are thermitic in nature with multiple layers and the heat from the reaction melted the grey layer and forced it onto the steel?
The copper strike used in the plating of nickel is the "external" source which is the reason why I mentioned it. That's self evident - see fig 10 in the report and pages 46 and 47 of Vander Voort's WTC talk slides.as for the copper:
there was copper in the wtc steel. but, the ncstar page 283 states that "the copper web plate analyzed had copper additions of approzimately 0.05, based upon the chemical results obtained in this study. given this low value of copper in the steel, it would seem unlikely that enough copper could diffuse to form the amount of (fe,cu) sulfides observed in the FEMA/BPAT analysis.......more likely that a localized, external source of copper was available....."
I wouldn't hold your breath.ill hold my judgement until jones or anyone else releases data to show that thermate can or can not look like the wtc 7 steel under the scope! if it does, then a thermitic reaction which would be hot and fast would be a scenario to consider since we saw 15.9mm gone in 8 days and an inch in just 8-18 days.
No, that's not how science is done. There is a valid reason why the FeS powder was used which has been explained to you. The FeS-FeO eutectic (as well as internal sulphidation and oxidation) was formed in the experiment - see page 9 of the report.bypassing the critical step of the office/debris fire causing the eutectic to attack the steel in the first place.
What experiment are you asking for?
So why do you not think that his conclusions, along with the other authors, are correct?i read about him before i emailed him. he is a very learned man. gotta respect that.