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Forum birdwatching 2009

Oh what great pictures! I love the cormorant's feet to bits :D

Their feet are beautiful!!

I had a lovely time watching a moorhen walking on ice one winter under a feeder which was attended by three red squirrels. It is an abiding memory

How can anyone not like those feet??

Can't be worse than stilletos: and much better looking

Fiona, I'm sensing a theme here... :D (I almost posted when the thread got to page 16 that I was going to miss seeing the first of the posts in this list when I read new entries.)
 
East Haven, Angus, Scotland 22/10/09

Firecrest Regulus ignicapillus
Blackcap Sylvia atricapilla
 
They are horrible, Kotatsu. You did not post them for no reason so what is the background to that?
 
They are horrible, Kotatsu. You did not post them for no reason so what is the background to that?

Well, basically I was just sent the link by a birdwatching mailinglist I'm on, and was horrified; I basically got the same basic information before opening the link as I gave here.

It reminds me of going to Japan, where every beach is covered with litter of the same kinds: bottle caps, cigarette lighters, old shoes and so on. My Japanese guides were adamant in claiming that the litter had invariably come across the sea from Korea, Russia and China, despite the bottles being almost invariably Japanese brands, and the fact that we were in Sendai, on the Pacific coast. In the meantime, most things you buy in Japan is wrapped in at least one layers of plastic, but very commonly two layers. I ate a lot of chocolate while in Japan, and there were usually a layer around the whole box, and then one inside, and then individual wrappings.

It also reminds me of a friend Holger, who's a member of Greenpeace, who did some "undercover research" on a large Norwegian fishing vessel going between Bergen and Iceland for half a year. He told me that the fishers brought bagfuls of food and stuff on board, all in original (plastic) wrappings, and when these things were used, they were simply thrown overboard. Holger worked as a chef on this ship, and he decided to do something about it, and instead stored all the scrap plastic and wrappings underneath his bunk bed, and for a normal trip, this was a substantial amount.

A few years ago, it was very popular here to have large bins by the exits of supermarkets, where you could dispose plastic (and paper) wrappings before going home, but they seem to have disappeared entirely. Why? I have no idea. Similarly, I was brought up never to throw any kind of trash on the street (apart from apple cores and similar things) and instead put it in my pocket, and throw it in the bin when I got home, but no one under 20 seems to do that anymore. Why is that?

Sweden is a very dirty country, where there's trash everywhere, basically. If you visit Gothenburg on a Saturday morning, and walk down the main streets, you'd think there had been a revolution every week. There's glass shards, plastic, paper, vomit and all kinds of crap in a thick layer all over. My hometown, Jönköping, has a quite long beach, and the Commune got so fed up with how people treated it every summer that they stopped cleaning it. They usually filled about one normal-sized dumpster per day, all through the summer, only with things that had not been placed in bins but just left next to picnic places and so on. They were planning to go on garbage-picking strike for a week, to send a signal, but after two days they were forced to go back to work, because there was nowhere to sit on the entire beach.

I guess I have no point, apart from putting words to my dislike for plastic wrappings. It seems to me that the more people talk about environmental issues, the less people care.
 
I am puzzled and seek your advice!

We have mute swans near us and the adults are the usual grunting, snorting types. But yesterday a juvenile with mixed brown and white plumage was making noises like a baby chicken. It looked like a mute swan but I have never heard anything like it from a mute swan. Do juveniles lose their cheep when they mature into adults?
 
I never thought about that. The Bird Guide (Mullarney, Svensson, Zetterström) mentions says that (my translation9: "Small chicks as well as slightly older sometime us quite weak, squeaky 'by-vy-vy-vy-...'", which I assume is the sound you refer to. I don't find this sound to be very common, but then again perhaps it's because it's too weak to be heard very often...
 
I never thought about that. The Bird Guide (Mullarney, Svensson, Zetterström) mentions says that (my translation9: "Small chicks as well as slightly older sometime us quite weak, squeaky 'by-vy-vy-vy-...'", which I assume is the sound you refer to. I don't find this sound to be very common, but then again perhaps it's because it's too weak to be heard very often...

Hmmm. This bird was virtually adult in size. It was a weak squeaky eap-eap sound, though. It also did the usual grunting too at times. This continues to puzzle.
 
Perhaps it's the swan equivalent of a teenage boy's voice breaking. :)

Oh - and Welcome to the sanest thread on the Forum, Mr Clingford.
We're all one big happy family and look forward to your sightings and photos if you're so inclined.

Someone here will get to the bottom of your query, I have little doubt.

ETA: While Googling, I found this little piece of birding trivia for you all,
Mute SwanWP
An unusually big Polish cob weighed almost 23 kg (50 lbs), surpassing the longer-bodied Trumpeter Swan to make it the heaviest waterfowl ever recorded.
 
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I have frequently heard the peeping sound in young mute swans: in fact I used to think it was the only sound they made because the adults were usually quiet: but I have been grunted at a lot since then :)

I do not know when they stop doing the peeping: I have not heard one do it when it is fully white, though.

When I was watching mum teaching the young dabchick to fish one of them made a quite similar noise: I could not tell if the duck was calling the young or if the young was mooching: I was not close enough. But when I have heard swans do it it seemed to be a call for the parent to come close, I think for protection rather than food.
 
Thank you for the welcome to the thread.

From your replies, I think this must be a juvenile that has kept its baby peep for a long time; when it alternated peeping and grunting it did remind me of voice-breaking!

The name 'Mute Swan' is ironic - when my partner and I were watching some of them close by I turned to my partner and said, "Would you speak up as I can't hear you over the Mute Swans?"

We are lucky in having a decent-sized body of water near us and a canal so one is virtually guaranteed to see Grey Heron Ardea cinerea. They are big birds.

Also, as my parents live in Tewkesbury, a couple of times around Christmas in the past few years we have gone to Slimbridge. One of my favourite birds there is the Eider Duck with its very funny call; imagine well-brought up old ladies gossiping and replying to some juicy tidbit, "Ooooh". It's hilarious.
 
Also, as my parents live in Tewkesbury, a couple of times around Christmas in the past few years we have gone to Slimbridge. One of my favourite birds there is the Eider Duck with its very funny call; imagine well-brought up old ladies gossiping and replying to some juicy tidbit, "Ooooh". It's hilarious.

Hah, I sat kissing with my ex-girlfriend at the shore last year, and she suddenly started laughing. When I asked what she was laughing at (hoping it wasn't my kisses!), she said that the Eiders sounded like, "Ooooh, there's people kissing! Let's go watch!"

To me, a flock of Eiders always sound like they are perpetually surprised by the fact that the ducks next to them are all Eiders.
 
Congratulations, sphenisc!

I had a Parrot Crossbill Loxia pytyopsittacus today, which I believe is the first for Sweden this year. Still haven't been to look at the White-winged...
 
Congratulations, sphenisc!

I had a Parrot Crossbill Loxia pytyopsittacus today, which I believe is the first for Sweden this year. Still haven't been to look at the White-winged...

There's lots of stuff up and down the East coast of UK at the moment - yellow-browed and Radde's warblers, red-flanked bluetails, firecrests, lapland buntings etc. I hope to get out tomorrow and see some if the rain willj ust stop.
Congrats on the Parrot Crossbill , are they easy to pick out from commons? I've yet to be convinced I've seen a Scottish.
 
Well, in my experience there are those that are impossible to tell apart, and those which are very clear-cut. I usually "default twitch" Common, and even the one this morning was in a quite strange place, flying across our yard, in the middle of an area filled with blocks of flats. There's a forest nearby, though, and there's LOTS of crossbills all over, it seems. I also had a Jay yesterday in a tree in the yard, so it seems these days anything is possible.

There's been quite a lot of rarities in Sweden and Norway as well, lately. We have had a Pied Wheatear ourselves, but I think the largest find is a Black-thorated Accentor Prunella atrogularis. There's a Woodchat Shrike Lanius senator and apparently a Steppe Eagle Aquila nipalensis, and of course the East (at least) has been swarming with Siberian Chiffchaffs Phylloscopus collybita tristis, Pallas' Warblers Phylloscopus proregulus and Yellow-Browed Warblers Phylloscopus inornatus like every autumn. None here on the West Coast, though...
 
Is this a juvenile Great Blue Heron?

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