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Former truther here.....please don't eat me

jdhammer

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My name's Jeff. I used to post in the Loose Change forums (as jdhammer as well) back when they were at a different site (different host?). And yes, I <sigh> was a truther at one point. My story is all too familiar to you guys I'm sure. I saw Loose Change, recognized a lot of it as BS but somehow clung onto the idea that they might be onto something. I think a big part of it was the fact that I thought some of the people on the Loose Change boards knew what they were talking about. Don't ask me why, but I did. So I guess there was some imagined credibility that I applied to the folk there, and I spiralled down into a strange and dark pit that I don't care to revisit.

When I started to wake up (in the intelligent sense, not the truther sense), I started to ask questions on the LC boards. I started to point things out, and basically shine the spotlight on things that truthers don't want a light shone on. It wasn't long before I was attacked from all sides simply for trying to be reasonable about the arguments being made on the boards. One moment in particular I remember (probably close to a year ago now) was when someone else was doing something similar (being reasonable, polite, and challenging the truther theories) - I believe it was actually someone from these boards and I ended up having a little PM exchange with him after we both got ripped apart. That was a defining moment in my turnaround from potential conspiracy nut to reaffirmed critical thinker. If you are in fact on these boards and come across this post, send me a message - It was an honor to be hung next to you on the LC boards.

I know you've all heard this story before, but I thought I'd say hello and provide you all with my background on my first post. After hearing "JREF" thrown around like a term used to describe murderous baby rapists, I poked around the site and I can honestly say I think I've found my new home. While it looks like these boards have their fair share of characters (like any), it looks like there is reasonable debate going on for the most part. My brain is excited.
 
Welcome to the land outside of the LC cult. May I be one of the first to say 'Hi'.
 
Welcome to the land of clear headed thinking, rationality and logic.

The smart ones see through the LC nitwits, the dumb ones feed themselves on each other's paranoia.
 
Welcome to the forum, JD.

Maybe Oliver could make up some "Red Badges of Courage" for such as yourself who've come out of the ranks of the Fantasists.
 
Welcome!

oops, I said great avatar, but it was dr. lao's I was seeing. LOL
 
Where are my Fava Beans and Kiante when I need them...lol

Welcome JDHammer.

TAM:)
 
Welcome to the land of clear headed thinking, rationality and logic.

The smart ones see through the LC nitwits, the dumb ones feed themselves on each other's paranoia.

Well that's the thing.....somehow I didn't see through the nitwits at first. I mean, I was always uncomfortable with the truth movement, but I still considered myself a truther. To be clear, I never thought the government did it, but I did look at things like WTC 7 and the Pentagon (sigh, again) and believe them to be highly suspicious.

Anyway, here's hoping I can redeem myself on these boards. May my mind-soul be cleansed.......
 
Great post.

THIS is exactly one of the reasons many of us continue the fight. There are fence sitters like you who deserve to hear, and evaluate, logical explanations for what happened.

The CT mindset is akin to a cult. When we can help to rescue one and bring them back to the real world it's rewarding.

Welcome to the board.
 
Welcome, jdhammer, and thank you for your post. It's encouraging to see that countering the "truth movement" (a misnomer if there ever was one) does yield some positive results once in a while. Do you know of other former CTists who have come around to reality, or is your story more or less unique?
 
The positive thing, in a way, is that it didnt even take us to mak him change...it was their own stupidity/insanity that made him really "wake up"...

TAM:)
 
Do you recall the debate? Was ther something which turned the switch on for you? A particular issue or info on a site perhaps?
 
Welcome. I think you'll find some very refreshing insights here. I found this place after seeing the response to Loose Change--Gravy's, I believe.

I thought the first "truthers" I ever encountered were joking. I couldn't believe that they were serious about the myriad 'theories' they'd concocted after seeing the PNAC's 'secret world domination plan' posted on the internet.

I see the fellow who made a new movie "Plane Flew Over The Pentagon" is over here hawking his wares. I wonder about these people and their selective 'proofs'. Did this guy even walk down to the ironworkers' union hall and ask them what they saw inside the "too small hole" at the Pentagon?

Anyhow, welcome. And learn a few more things as I have. Details like what kind of aircraft were at a National Guard base near New York City and why they couldn't possibly have intercepted Flight 175. Things you definitely won't see at the LCF.
 
Welcome, jdhammer, and thank you for your post. It's encouraging to see that countering the "truth movement" (a misnomer if there ever was one) does yield some positive results once in a while. Do you know of other former CTists who have come around to reality, or is your story more or less unique?

Well I was never really so involved in the boards there to the point where I would know specific people who've come around.

What I CAN tell you, though, is that in my case there was definitely a reluctance to "switch sides". I don't profess to be a genius at all, but I like to consider myself a fairly bright guy, and I guess my thought process went something like "Well, you fell into the conspiracy trap, you dumba**. You've already invested brain power into the whole 9/11 conspiracy thing, so how can you possibly get out of this without egg on your face." I believe there are plenty of "truthers" that are in the same position, and are unwilling to fight against what they are/were passionately a part of.

On the plus side, I like eggs, so it's not all bad. Like I mentioned earlier, I fully expect to redeem myself and slowly forget I ever abused my brain like I did.
 
Former truther here.....please don't eat me


Whoooooohoooooo! DINNER! :D ... Oh, wait - did he say "former"?
Anyway - welcome on Board, JDHammer - I was a Truther, too - before
I came here. I still have some questions regarding 9/11 but so far no
argument could convince me from an Inside Job - but I use to stay
open-minded for new evidence... ;)

Cheers,
Oliver
 

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