Former truther here.....please don't eat me

MaGZ said:
That is not true. Once they are confronted with such data they will ignore you or become ridiculous in their arguments.

Example; here are two photos showing WTC 7 on fire (floors 11 and 12) before the collapse of the Twin Towers. Their response was this was a solar reflection. This could not be the case since WTC 7 was in a dark shadow. You see the top of the building shadow at the upper floors.

http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc23.JPG
http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc38.JPG
JREF also has cult like elements in it.
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Which building in those photos is WTC7? I am not sure.

Cheers,
TGHO
 
The Great Hairy One said:
Which building in those photos is WTC7? I am not sure.

Cheers,
TGHO
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It is left of the building that is in front of the North Tower (left tower). It has a black horizontal stripe of about two floors in height.

Also note that the building on the far left edge of the second photo also has 3 floors on fire, if use use Magzilian logic.
 
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Thanks guys.

I fail to see any evidence that WTC7 is currently aflame - can someone point it out to me?

Cheers,
TGHO
 
The Great Hairy One said:
Thanks guys.

I fail to see any evidence that WTC7 is currently aflame - can someone point it out to me?

Cheers,
TGHO
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If you look at the lowest windows you can see, there are two that are an orange colour. That's the sum total of his evidence. Also note how the colour patches do not change very much between his two pictures, and how they seem to be gone in the later pictures I linked to.
 
Ah, thanks Horatius. Both my wife and I believe this to be a reflection, not clear evidence of a fire. There is no smoke for a start, the outline of the windows can be seen, and from the angle of the sun, it's likely that it's caused by sunlight.

Cheers,
TGHO
 
Hammer_of_Thor said:
jdhammer,

I see what you are doing. Taking my name and twisting it to make me look like a "truther". It is kind of funny that two people with similar names would both be recovering conspiracy people. I used to read the conspiracy books and the such. I used to read about JFK, 911, moon landing, all the trash that is out there. I know how hard it is to totally switch your belief structure. For me both conspiracy and religous. Go from thinking that there are black copters, death camps run by the U.S. in many states, secret groups that run the world, etc. to the complete opposite. I dont think there is anything wrong with reading all that stuff because it only made me a better thinker. It made me research things instead of taking things as they are said. I see how words and actions can be twisted around.
It is very hard to admit you are wrong. I know.
After I came to realize that I was wrong in my thinking I became much more open to ideas. I feel much more open mentally.
I think you are on the right path and your life will contain much less stress not worrying about the MIB and government murderers.

Welcome
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For the record, I was never a black copter, MIB, evil cloud formation type of guy. My involvement with the truth movement was strictly regarding the events of 9/11. I never even came close to falling for the other crap like FEMA camps and the illuminati.....
 
jdhammer said:
For the record, I was never a black copter, MIB, evil cloud formation type of guy. My involvement with the truth movement was strictly regarding the events of 9/11. I never even came close to falling for the other crap like FEMA camps and the illuminati.....
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Oh the FEMA camps are real. In fact, you just joined the organisation that won the contract to run them!

Welcome to the NWO, you'll love it here!
 
jdhammer said:
For the record, I was never a black copter, MIB, evil cloud formation type of guy. My involvement with the truth movement was strictly regarding the events of 9/11. I never even came close to falling for the other crap like FEMA camps and the illuminati.....
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Welcome on board, Jeff :)

If you have any questions regarding strictly the events of 9/11, check out my signature post. There I go through the most common theories regarding the day of 9/11. You'll also find lots of links there for further information.

We have lots of incredibly knowledgeable people here. We have architects, engineers, pilots, crash site investigators, actors, tour guides etc. ;) The amount of info in JREF threads is overwhelming. Feel free to ask questions if you have something on your mind :) The answers in here come reliably and fast. And with supporting evidence, not just some hollow shouting.
 
Horatius said:
http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc63.JPG
http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc65.JPG

Gee, the "fires" seem to be gone in these photos.

And note the lack of smoke coming from WTC7.
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Actually you can still see one of the fires still burning in the second photo you provided, although it is a bit obscured by the dust from the first collapse.

At 4:30 in this video you will see the smoke around the base and above WTC 7. Some of this smoke is the reamins from the white cloud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4p8Pxc3604
 
MaGZ said:
Actually you can still see one of the fires still burning in the second photo you provided, although it is a bit obscured by the dust from the first collapse.

At 4:30 in this video you will see the smoke around the base and above WTC 7. Some of this smoke is the reamins from the white cloud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4p8Pxc3604
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from the narration of your video @ 3:20

Until more evidence is discovered to support the contention of a separate explosion at the world trade center.I think its safe to assume that this rising plume was the first of many, which were the result of the collapsing south tower. which was hidden from view in this camera angle
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Welcome to JREF, JDHammer.

I remember you from the old LC. I don't believe we ever interacted directly, though.

I give you a huge amount of credit for admitting that you were misguided. That's tough under any circumstances, and doubly so when you've invested a lot of time and energy in the misguided effort.

My congratulations to you, and I look forward to reading your contributions in this forum. There are several reformed Twoofers here (GlennB, JAStewart, and others) and their perspective on Twoofthink is valuable.
 
FactCheck said:
Are you suggesting someone has faked a conspiracy theory photo? :D
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No, I'm suggesting he's cherry-picked a conspiracy photo.



That or he's discovered self-extinguishing office fires, which I'm sure the FDNY would like to hear about......


:)
 
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