Final NTSB Flightpath Animation?

[Turbofan]

I see you know as much about this as you do physics. Zero. You can not form a rational question? Please get on topic and try to contribute, stop making up lies and junk ideas about 9/11.

The FDR has no terrain in it! The animation is plotting FDR parameter related to the flight of 77. The real world outside of the animated aircraft is supplied by images essentially placed by "hand". Then the accuracy of the FDR information could only tell you within 2000 to 4000 feet where the plane was. This is a problem if you want an image lined up. For takeoff there is no real problem. Place the animation based on aircraft parameters on the runway.

By the end of the flight the accuracy from the FDR is still off and is not off the same amount as it was at the beginning of flight, it has drifted. So even if you align the Pentagon with the takeoff runway, the animation is not going to be over the real spot it was on 9/11. The animation is made from the FDR, it has no real reference to the ground.

So please explain what you are trying to mess up and lie about this time?

I NEVER once said the terrain data was part of the FDR file! LMAO!

I typed (if you can read?), why is the runway correctly oriented, and the Pentagon off?

I then asked if this terrain data was specially drawn up just for 9/11, or
if the NTSB had this same profile in the past to study other flights.

Learn the difference. Answer the questions.

I guess you believe someone just by chance drew in the wrong location
of the Pentagon to make things interesting?

 

[WildCat]

I see Turbofan has run away completely from the FDR thread, and so has the head dolt at PfffT.

Is this an admission you and the hacks at PffffT have no idea as to how to interpret the FDR data TF?

 

[beachnut]

I NEVER once said the terrain data was part of the FDR file! LMAO!

I typed (if you can read?), why is the runway correctly oriented, and the Pentagon off?

I then asked if this terrain data was specially drawn up just for 9/11, or
if the NTSB had this same profile in the past to study other flights.

Learn the difference. Answer the questions.

I guess you believe someone just by chance drew in the wrong location
of the Pentagon to make things interesting?

Quick and dirty I am working too much, we can correct errors in this working copy on the fly~!!!!!

Bye
There is no terrain data. There are images of runway, and the Pentagon.

The runway was placed under the 77 animation. How? By putting it under the 77 animation. Do you need that again? The aircraft takes off on a known track, it is accurate. Line up plane with runway, image of runway lines up with animation because we know plane took off from that runway.

The animation are used to show aircraft parameters like roll, yaw, pitch, heading, track, altimeter, speed, VVI, and more. The ground placement is relative and the data in 77 could not place the aircraft position better than 2000 feet. That is different now, with GPS.

The Pentagon was image was placed manually, and is not correctly orientated to where 77 FDR says it was or reality. This is a working copy.

Whereas the RUNWAY IMAGE placement is easy, 77 took off from the runway. There is data missing in the FDR, and the placement of the Pentagon image is harder to do, since it has to be aligned with heading and impact point. But again there is no data in the FDR to make this accurate better than 2000 feet in all directions etc.

There are no real errors in the animation since the ground images are not tied to the darn FDR anyway. Understand this. Please stop spewing the lies of Balsamo on this topic his is clueless on this and can't even correct his math errors. He has harassed the NTSB! He has idiot ideas on this and is paranoid, the FAA must of grounded him for being stupid.

see you later,

 

[Turbofan]

I see Turbofan has run away completely from the FDR thread, and so has the head dolt at PfffT.

Is this an admission you and the hacks at PffffT have no idea as to how to interpret the FDR data TF?

Naaa, this is more like watching you dodge the questions again.

Don't worry, we're working on something to backup the six links of proof you
all keep dodging.

 

[WildCat]

Naaa, this is more like watching you dodge the questions again.

Don't worry, we're working on something to backup the six links of proof you
all keep dodging.

No problem, I'll bump it for you.

 

[DC]

a good point by beachnut, the accuracy, where can i read more about the accuracy of the system used for positioning?

but a problem remains, the whithnesses, North of Citgo. question rises, what nocked down the lightpoles? those on the south of citgo path?......

 

[T.A.M.]

So Dick, your a CIT/PFT guy? Can't say I'm impressed.

TAM

 

[Caustic Logic]

There are no real errors in the animation since the ground images are not tied to the darn FDR anyway. Understand this.

Why can't people acknowledge this evident fact? They cannot show any errors in the actual yellow line flight path, only in its relation to the obviously placed map? If they had accidentally put it over a map of Disneyland, would these dolts be harping how it flew on the wrong side of Epcot Center to hit the Pentagon?

 

[AZCat]

Why can't people acknowledge this evident fact? They cannot show any errors in the actual yellow line flight path, only in its relation to the obviously placed map? If they had accidentally put it over a map of Disneyland, would these dolts be harping how it flew on the wrong side of Epcot Center to hit the Pentagon?

<nitpick>
Epcot Center is at Disney World, not Disneyland.
</nitpick>

 

[uruk]

in other words, you never asked yourself if there is a final version, a correct version.

figures

thx for the answer

What about a corrected version of CIT's video. It mistakenly shows the plane flying over the Pentagon? Every single one of the 13 CIT witnesses say they saw the plane crash into the "Pentagon. Why does CIT keep ignoring thier own witnesses?

 

[Jonnyclueless]

I haven't read through the thread yet, but the fact that the OP thinks the working copy animation is what was used to determine the flight path of 77 pretty much sums up the entire 9/11 cult movement.

 

[beachnut]

<nitpick>
Epcot Center is at Disney World, not Disneyland.
</nitpick>

No, he ~means Epcot center, and you are right! But they would say Epcot... It makes more sense for CIT and p4t to say Epcot...

 

[eeyore1954]

so i wonder where the final version is, the corrected one. or did NTSB and FBI etc work with that faulty copy?

most conspiracy-deniers cry about P4T using the data and Animation the got from NTSB. but i dont see those deniers cry about NTSB and FBI using that faulty copy.

What did the FBI and NTSB use the animation for?

 

[beachnut]

What did the FBI and NTSB use the animation for?

Not, sure, but it clearly shows when the terrorist took over. Is the FBI interested in that. The NTSB does no care much about 77, it was on purpose, they take action to investigate accident to help prevent them. They have the expertise to help the FBI.
What the animation shows.
When the terrorist took control of 77
The animation confirms what ATC saw when 77 approached DC
Verifies the speed was high for impact

The animation makes comment like Charlie Sheen's, pure stupid.

There are zero anomalies in the animation when you understand the ground place under the animation is added based not on the FDR readout of position, but knowing where 77 was. 77 was on the runway, FDR said it was 2000 feet south. NTSB says we know it is on the runway and they put the runway under the animation. At the end they have to do some alignment, because if the runway and Pentagon are connected on the image world under the animation, the navigation readout on 77 recorded on the FDR is now off in a different direction. So you can't line up 77 on the runway and fix the offset, the offset drifts could drift up to ¼ mile an hour. Now there is GPS, it could be used to line up the ground very quickly.