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FBI's Anthrax Media Strategy Explained

Galileo

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FBI's Anthrax Media Strategy Explained

1) After seven years, the FBI is unable to find out who mailed the deadly anthrax.

2) The deadly anthrax came from a government lab.

3) Sherlock Holmes said; "Once you have eliminated everything that is impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

4) The FBI leaks alleged circumstantial evidence and rumors to the mass media that points to Dr. Ivins' guilt.

5) Since this was a highly sophisticated crime that no one else could have possibly done, most people will believe, by process of elimination, that Dr. Irvins is guilty.

6) The FBI is counting on a majority of the people to hear only what the FBI is leaking, and not read the good investigative stories that demonstrate Dr. Ivins is innocent.

7) If the intelligentsia of the United States cannot absolutely prove Dr. Ivins is innocent, based on what they've read, the FBI is counting on the intelligentsia to use their lack of proof as an excuse to do nothing.

8) Enough investigative stories have already appeared that prove Dr. Ivins is innocent, if you connect the dots.

9) If we, the American intelligentsia, connect the dots, an act, we can demonstrate to the American people that Dr. Ivins is innocent.

10) If Dr. Ivins is innocent, then who is guilty?

11) "Once you have eliminated everything that is impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

12) Only an insider from the executive branch of the federal government, someone not subject to FBI investigation, could have perpetrated the deadly anthrax attacks in coordination with the war on terror.

ANTHRAX NEWS

Bruce Ivins: The Movie Anthrax mystery: the FBI/media narrative is laughable – and sinister
by Justin Raimondo
http://antiwar.com/justin/

February 1999: Classified CIA Report Discusses Responses to an Anthrax Attack through the Mail
http://www.historycommons.org/contex..._timeline_5528

Refutation of New Alleged Anthrax Evidence

The media is reporting new "evidence" against Dr. Ivins today. None of the new alleged evidence addresses these facts:

1) All the people who were testing the anthrax letters had custody of the special strain used, including the FBI and the people at Dr. Ivins' lab who were helping the FBI with the investigation.

2) Dr. Ivins has been cooperating with the anthrax investigation for 7 years, passed polygraphs, and answered every question the FBI asked.

3) Dr. Ivins wasn't in New Jersey the day the letters were mailed, nor does he have a motive. Nor did he have custody of dry anthrax, nor the equipment to make it, or the technical training.

4) The media is just repeating ******** from the FBI looking for a scapegoat.

5) The real people of interest should be Dick Cheney and the FBI. Cheney and his staff were taking Cipro a week before the "surprise" anthrax attacks occurred.

MORE ANTHRAX NEWS

The FBI's New Anthrax Evidence
http://www.911blogger.com/node/16987#comment

FBI said to have stalked Ivins' family
Diane Sweet
Published: Wednesday August 6, 2008
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_sa...vins_0806.html

Colonel Anderson Refutes False Allegations Against Dr. Ivins
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.co...tes-false.html

Anthrax Gone Viral: Roundup 8-5-08
http://www.911blogger.com/node/16969

Anthrax Vaccine -- posts by Meryl Nass, M.D.
http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/

Wash. Post: Cheney's Staff Given Anthrax Vaccine Week Before Anthrax Attacks
White House Mail Machine Has Anthrax
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...201158_000.htm

ANTHRAX QUESTIONS

Why were White House aides given cipro weeks before the anthrax attacks, and why "on the night of the Sept. 11 attacks, [did] the White House Medical Office dispense[] Cipro to staff accompanying Vice President Dick Cheney as he was secreted off to the safety of Camp David"? [Washington Post, 10/23/2001]

Why, if Cheney was given cipro on the night of the 9/11 attacks, was he allegedly "convinced that he had been subjected to a lethal dose of anthrax" on October 18, and that this fear is what led him to seek refuge in "undisclosed locations" and thereafter support an array of hard-line tactics against suspected terrorists? [Jane Mayer, The Dark Side, 2008]

Which "high government official" told Richard Cohen to take cipro prior to the anthrax attacks (it wasn't a "source" who did so, since Cohen didn't write about it and apparently never intended to; it was just someone high up in Government passing along a helpful tip to a media friend) [Richard Cohen, Slate, March 18, 2008]

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...03/journalism/

STILL MORE ANTHRAX NEWS

FBI used aggressive tactics in anthrax probe
By PETE YOST
WASHINGTON (AP)
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...Wio0wD92CDS6O0

Scientists Question FBI Probe On AnthraxIvins Could Not Have Been Attacker, Some Say
By Joby Warrick, Marilyn W. Thompson and Aaron C. Davis
Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, August 3, 2008; Page A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

Scientist’s Suicide Linked to Anthrax InquiryBy SCOTT SHANE and ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: August 2, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/wa...?pagewanted=1#

911 Plotters Bury the Evidence of Anthrax as their Follow-up Punch
by Michael Green
Aug. 3, 2008
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/g...yEvidence.html

How Solid Is the Anthrax Evidence?
Tuesday, Aug. 05, 2008
By AMANDA RIPLEY AND MASSIMO CALABRESI
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...0.html?cnn=yes

Exclusive: Government's Purported 'Anthrax Killer' Was a Registered DemocratParty Affiliation of the Now-Deceased Bruce Ivins, as Confirmed by His Local County Board of Elections, Adds Yet Another Curious Question to the Increasingly Troubling Investigation into the Post-9/11 Terrorist Attacks on American Soil...
-- Brad Friedman
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6245

Bruce Ivins Wasn't the Anthrax Culprit
By RICHARD SPERTZEL
August 5, 2008
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1217...googlenews_wsj

Glenn Greenwald
Sunday Aug. 3, 2008 07:26 EDT
Journalists, their lying sources, and the anthrax investigation
(Updated below - Update II - Update III - Update IV)
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...03/journalism/

Anthrax Article Archive
http://www.911blogger.com/taxonomy/term/1531

Anthrax - the gateway toxin to 9/11 conspiracy theories!

The Patsy
Was Bruce Ivins the anthrax killer?
by Justin Raimondo
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13251

Galileo's Comment:

Don't believe 9/11 was a government conspiracy? Well, I suggest you read up on the Anthrax case, its the gateway drug to the 9/11 Truth movement.

The Killer Anthrax Did Not Originate at Fort Detrick
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/08/rmr-1029-did-not-even-originate-at-ft.html

Lone Nut Anthrax Killer Debunked
http://www.911blogger.com/node/17013
 
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wrong forum . not even a conspiracy theory. the FBI already had a suspect, and the suspect committed suicide. A lot of evidence pointed to him.

End of story.
 
This has what to do with 90 year-old baseball teams?

Oh wait, wrong forum... got confused since that's the one this thread should have been in. :p
 
Sherlock Holmes is a real person? What?He's not? Then why the hell are we taking his advice?
 
Sherlock Holmes is a real person? What?He's not? Then why the hell are we taking his advice?

Real or not, he's so important we have to take his advice TWICE:


3) Sherlock Holmes said; "Once you have eliminated everything that is impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

...

11) "Once you have eliminated everything that is impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."
 
wrong forum . not even a conspiracy theory. the FBI already had a suspect, and the suspect committed suicide. A lot of evidence pointed to him.

End of story.

No credible evidnece points to Dr. Ivins, a loyal Amecian with 33 years of government service, with his colleagues 100% behind him. He was not in NJ when the anthrax letters were mailed, nor does he have a motive, plus the letters were in someone else's handwriting.

Please spare us your hatred of America. Not even the grand jury believed the evidence or returned an indictment.
 
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Hmmm.. so th FBI just got lucky and found a fall guy who just happened to work at a lab with anthrax that matches that used in the mailings, who just happened to be unstable, who just happened to have a post office box at the same post office known to have sold the envelopes used in the mailings, who just happened to have a special dryer that no-one in his lab knew how to use, but that he could use to dry the spores to make them lighter before mailing them, and who just happened to log an inordinate amount of after-hours overtime at the lab just prior to the mailings.

Wow - sometimes you just get lucky, I guess.
 
According to a news conference yesterday, there are "dozens" of newly released documents which bolster the case against Irvins. Now, clearly the CT answer is "they are fakes," but regardless I'm wondering if these documents have been released online yet?

ETA: Never mind :o
 
Still waiting for the part that explains what this has to do with 9/11 or conspiracy theories.
 
I haven't made my mind up yet about the issue, but as usual Galileo's "No credible evidnece points to Dr. Ivins" reiterates his inability to understand the concept of 'credible evidence' he's shown when confronted by evidence that is contrary to what he believes happened.

But, this is not a thread that belongs 911 conspiracy theories.
 
Hmmm.. so th FBI just got lucky and found a fall guy who just happened to work at a lab with anthrax that matches that used in the mailings, who just happened to be unstable, who just happened to have a post office box at the same post office known to have sold the envelopes used in the mailings, who just happened to have a special dryer that no-one in his lab knew how to use, but that he could use to dry the spores to make them lighter before mailing them, and who just happened to log an inordinate amount of after-hours overtime at the lab just prior to the mailings.

Wow - sometimes you just get lucky, I guess.

The anthrax wasn't from Dr. Ivins lab:

The Killer Anthrax Did Not Even Originate at Fort Detrick
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/08/rmr-1029-did-not-even-originate-at-ft.html

Dr. Ivins was unstable, as any innocent man hunted down would be and as his colleagues agree. He was not unstable 7 years ago, and held his high-level security clearance for several years afterward. The social worker who made the allegations was a gang member from a drug and motorcycle gang.

The envelopes were sold in Virginia or Maryland. Under your logic, that makes everyone who lived near Virginia or Maryland a suspect.

Dr. Ivins did not have a special dryer, that alleged by the FBI, and not true.

And if you think workinmg late makes someone a mass murderer, then you do not have the intelligence to be allowed on the Internet.

The FBI already claimed that the anthrax was sent by the Arabs, bin Laden, Saddam, Muslims, Dr. Hatfield, etc.

Ever heard of the story of the boy who called wolf?

The FBI was also caught bribing witnesses amd offering them $2.5 million. it is illegal to bribe witnesses and they have not disclosed what other bribes they gave out (using our taxpayer money). I would not believe anything an organization says that is involved in bribery.

Also, people in the FBI have been breaking the law and leaking confidential evidence on a regular basis. If they can't keep track of all the lawlessness in their own ranks, why should I believe anything they say.

You BS was not accepted by the grand jury, so it means nothing. Bring me some evidence that the grand jury confirmed and I might listen.

Otherwise, please stop smearing innocent people! The sickos at the FBI were showing pictures of dead people on anthrax to young girls in a hospitla. That's disgusting? No wonder most people think the FBI was behind the anthrax attacks.
 
Still waiting for the part that explains what this has to do with 9/11 or conspiracy theories.

this was supposed to be in "conspiracy theories", not "9/11 conspiracy theories".

Someone must have moved it on me, or hacked into my computer.
 
this was supposed to be in "conspiracy theories", not "9/11 conspiracy theories".

Someone must have moved it on me, or hacked into my computer.
Or you simply made a mistake.

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy?
 
If Dr. Ivins did it, why wasn't he taking Cipro like Dick Cheney was?
 
Real or not, he's so important we have to take his advice TWICE:

I actualy think another Holmes quotation is even more appropriate.

It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.

I have never seen a better description of one perhaps the most common fallacy commited by Conspriacy Theorists.

Many a true word has been spoken by fictional characters.

And, Yes, I am a Sherlockian. They might be my favorite stories of all time.
 
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Hmmm.. so th FBI just got lucky and found a fall guy who just happened to work at a lab with anthrax that matches that used in the mailings, who just happened to be unstable, who just happened to have a post office box at the same post office known to have sold the envelopes used in the mailings, who just happened to have a special dryer that no-one in his lab knew how to use, but that he could use to dry the spores to make them lighter before mailing them, and who just happened to log an inordinate amount of after-hours overtime at the lab just prior to the mailings.

Wow - sometimes you just get lucky, I guess.

Reminds me of the old Lincoln & Kennedy conspiracy theories. You can take any two people, and always find a bunch of coincidences.
 
The anthrax wasn't from Dr. Ivins lab:

The Killer Anthrax Did Not Even Originate at Fort Detrick
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/08/rmr-1029-did-not-even-originate-at-ft.html
Oh yeah, that was convincing.

Dr. Ivins was unstable, as any innocent man hunted down would be and as his colleagues agree. He was not unstable 7 years ago, and held his high-level security clearance for several years afterward.
Oh, I see. Everyone who holds high level governmental security clearance is by definition stable. Good to know. What is it you're here for again?

You have evidence of his stability? His brother, his therapist and his physician have different opinions on that. He had a history of making homicidal threats. I'd call that unstable.

The social worker who made the allegations was a gang member from a drug and motorcycle gang.
All the more reason to trust her.

The envelopes were sold in Virginia or Maryland. Under your logic, that makes everyone who lived near Virginia or Maryland a suspect.
All of them with access to anthrax

Dr. Ivins did not have a special dryer, that alleged by the FBI, and not true.
Why should I believe you over the FBI? I await your evidence.

And if you think workinmg late makes someone a mass murderer, then you do not have the intelligence to be allowed on the Internet.
Its called context, bub. Working late at an anthrax lab just before anthrax is mailed out killing five people is suspicious and worthy of investigation. I spose if you were the FBI you would have ignored this lead and consulted David Icke instead?

The FBI already claimed that the anthrax was sent by the Arabs, bin Laden, Saddam, Muslims, Dr. Hatfield, etc.
so?

You BS was not accepted by the grand jury, so it means nothing. Bring me some evidence that the grand jury confirmed and I might listen.
Which GJ are you talking about - the one that was being prepared and is now skuttled due to Ivin's suicide? You have some kind of alternate-reality time machine? The grand jury was preparing to indict him, thats why he killed himself, no?
 

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