Facism: Martial Law starting Oct. 1rst, 2008.

I Ratant said:
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This is one thing that puzzled me about the urge/need to get rid of Saddam.
Traditionally in that part of the world, the dictator's sons will dispose of him, or, some muckety in the military with take him out.
We coulda waited for this to occur in Iraq, with the animals his sons were, something like that would almost be a certainty, with a further fall-out between those two.
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Except then the people in Iraq are still living under a dictator.
 
HereticHulk said:
The 'skeptics' seem to skip over this one.

His comments were just taken out of context I'm sure. :rolleyes:
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so he was told we'll have martial law if they dont pass the bill

they didnt pass the bill, and we dont have martial law

whats your point? as someone else mentioned, fearmongering != martial law
 
defaultdotxbe said:
so he was told we'll have martial law if they dont pass the bill

they didnt pass the bill, and we dont have martial law

whats your point? as someone else mentioned, fearmongering != martial law
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The Bailout that was signed into law didn't pass?

Ice cream?

If it was just Fearmongering, using it to pass legislation doesn't concern you?
 
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HereticHulk said:
The Bailout that was signed into law didn't pass?
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he was referring to the older bill that didnt pass

If it was just Fearmongering, using it to pass legislation doesn't concern you?
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democracy was invented in athens in 500BC

fearmongering to get people to vote the way someone wants you to was invented in 499BC

welcome to the human race
 
JihadJane said:
What on earth makes you belive that the US empire is opposed to dictators?
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Did the US not replace a dictator with a democracy? Did the US not do the same following WW2 and many years later in Afghanistan?
 
Horatius said:
Yep, we just skipped right over it. Absolutely no one even addressed that post.


Oh. Wait:
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I figured the combination of several members of congress in private conversation being threatened with martial law if they do not pass the bailout (which they did) and an Army Brigade deployed for 'crowd control' on American soil for the first time since 1807 would have gotten a more thorough debunking.

A bunch of soldiers with PTSD doing 'crowd control'?

I stand by my post.
 
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HereticHulk said:
I figured the combination of several members of congress in private conversation being threatened with martial law if they do not pass the bailout (which they did)
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(not the same one)

and an Army Brigade deployed for 'crowd control' on American soil for the first time since 1807 would have gotten a more thorough debunking.
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Well actually active Army Units have been deployed within the United States at different times throughout history the most recent was during Katrina.

A bunch of soldiers with PTSD doing 'crowd control'?
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How do you know that they all have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? And at such small numbers that is hardly martial law. Do we still have an election? Yes. Do we still have local and state governments in control of their affairs? Yes. Are you here on this thread talking critical of the government? Yes.

Well I geuss that debunks any martial law claims. Unless we are talking about that other kind of martial law which looks exactly like civilian government.

I stand by my post.
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Well at least you stand by your failures.
 
The question that comes to mind for me is: Could the US impose martial law even if it wanted to?
 
Travis said:
Did the US not replace a dictator with a democracy?
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No, democracy and military occupation by a foreign power are not compatible. If the will of the Iraqi people were important to the US, the US would leave immediately.


Did the US not do the same following WW2
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It was economically very advantageous to do so and helped launch its short-lived empire out of the ashes of the British one. Since then the US has helped to create many dictatorships and no functioning democracies.



and many years later in Afghanistan?
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No. Narco-state Afghanistan is also under military occupation by a foreign power. Its oil industry US puppet leader has virtually no control of the country outside of Kabul.
 
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Disenchanted said:
Moving the goalposts I see. So it has to be a perfect democracy to count?

Your article does not change the fact that it is a democracy that the U.S. helped, which refutes your claim.
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I see what you mean but it seems strange to create a democracy with bombing and ethnic cleansing. Seems like the easy way out!
 
HereticHulk said:
I figured the combination of several members of congress in private conversation being threatened with martial law if they do not pass the bailout (which they did) and an Army Brigade deployed for 'crowd control' on American soil for the first time since 1807 would have gotten a more thorough debunking.

A bunch of soldiers with PTSD doing 'crowd control'?
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Ah, so the problem isn't that we didn't debunk it, it's that we didn't debunk it enough.


HereticHulk said:
I stand by my post.
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You choose to stand by a post that is clearly wrong, and then wonder why some people here might just decide to start ignoring some posts. Cause and effect, anyone?
 
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