Eric Ciaramella - whistleblower

applecorped said:
Didn't take long for the knives to come out and people stop addressing the article and start personalizing it but that's is, as someone recently said here.....SOP
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I addressed the article in post 6. Your thoughts? Do you think it matters who it is, seeing as the report has been confirmed to be true? If yes, why is that?
 
applecorped said:
Didn't take long for the knives to come out and people stop addressing the article and start personalizing it but that's is, as someone recently said here.....SOP
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Weirdly ironic, given that the only purpose of the article is to "personalize it."
 
applecorped said:
Didn't take long for the knives to come out and people stop addressing the article and start personalizing it but that's is, as someone recently said here.....SOP
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You didn't even address the ******* article there, guy, and you posted it.

I made that observation already though.
 

Politico reported on a Ukrainian-American woman who consulted for the Democratic National Committee, and “met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia.” The woman, Alexandra Chalupa, was paid $412,000 from 2004 to June 2016 by the DNC.

Ciaramella invited Chalupa to meetings and events at the White House, RealClear reported, documents confirming one occasion in November 2015. She also visited the White House with Ukrainian lobbyists seeking aid from Obama
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Do not quote significant amounts of material from elsewhere without giving an indication that's what you are doing.
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applecorped said:
Politico reported on a Ukrainian-American woman who consulted for the Democratic National Committee, and “met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia.” The woman, Alexandra Chalupa, was paid $412,000 from 2004 to June 2016 by the DNC.

Ciaramella invited Chalupa to meetings and events at the White House, RealClear reported, documents confirming one occasion in November 2015. She also visited the White House with Ukrainian lobbyists seeking aid from Obama
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If you're going to steal someone's **** at least give them credit for it.
 
Applecorped continuing to attack the messenger. The real question is whether the substance of the message is correct. Is it correct Applecorp?

Did Trump use authorized military aid as leverage to persuade Ukraine to investigate his political opponent?

Try SUBSTANCE instead of SMEAR.
 
The public has no right to know this information. The impeachment proceedings should continue to be held in private and the vote in the Senate should be private as well. Just tell us the outcome.
 
Brainster said:
The public has no right to know this information. The impeachment proceedings should continue to be held in private and the vote in the Senate should be private as well. Just tell us the outcome.
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NO IT DOESN'T. That's why the Whistleblower law was enacted. But there is going to be public hearings.
 
varwoche said:
Do you think it matters who it is, seeing as the report has been confirmed to be true?
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Obviously, if the whistleblower is a Democrat, has ever worked for a Democrat, has ever met a Democrat, was ever in the same room as a Democrat, knows what a Democrat is, or has ever heard or read the word "Democrat", then their testimony is completely invalid, everything derived from it must be discarded, and Trump must have his term extended to compensate for the time lost to this blasphemous persecution.
All Hail God-Emperor Trump. Eternally May He Reign.
 
Armitage72 said:
Obviously, if the whistleblower is a Democrat, has ever worked for a Democrat, has ever met a Democrat, was ever in the same room as a Democrat, knows what a Democrat is, or has ever heard or read the word "Democrat", then their testimony is completely invalid, everything derived from it must be discarded, and Trump must have his term extended to compensate for the time lost to this blasphemous persecution.
All Hail God-Emperor Trump. Eternally May He Reign.
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DEAR LEADER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
 
I also have to note the way the Trumpers have now embraced Vladimir Putin.
Clear they don't like democracy and long for a authorarian leader.
 
If the police catch someone standing over a dead body with a bloody knife in hand and there are a dozen witnesses all stating that the guy holding the knife is the killer, does it matter who called 911?
 
whoanellie said:
If the police catch someone standing over a dead body with a bloody knife in hand and there are a dozen witnesses all stating that the guy holding the knife is the killer, does it matter who called 911?
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Apparently Applecorped thinks it does. That is, if the guy holding the gun is President Trump and those witnesses were "blue state" New Yorkers.
 
applecorped said:
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That's what you got? Childish emoticons?

Not ONCE have you addressed the substance of the Whistleblower's report.

Is Colonel Vindman lying? How about Ambassador Yovanovitch? Ambassador Taylor? Fiona Hill, George Kent? Hell, even the White House doctored transcript of the President's phone call confirms the meat of the whistleblower's report.

So why oh why does it make a damn bit of difference if the Whistleblower is a Democrat, a goat or an alien from another planet?
 
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applecorped said:
https://www.realclearinvestigations...biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html


RealClearInvestigations is disclosing the name because of the public’s interest in learning details of an effort to remove a sitting president from office. Further, the official's status as a “whistleblower” is complicated by his being a hearsay reporter of accusations against the president, one who has “some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate"
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The hearsay arguments are just from Trump supporters and they are subhuman. His status is not complicated unless you're Trumptrash and then your objections don't matter.
 
Brainster said:
The public has no right to know this information. The impeachment proceedings should continue to be held in private and the vote in the Senate should be private as well. Just tell us the outcome.
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Other than not having a closed trial, and I don't think that an impeachment trial should be closed either, how would this differ from any normal criminal case where the interviews of witnesses are done in private, the grand jury is held in secret, and the Jury deliberated and votes in secret?
 
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