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Merged Due process in the US

One question I have about Garcia's imprisonment in El Salvador for crimes he (supposedly) committed in the US is- what is the term of imprisonment? If he had been tried and convicted here for being a gang member (which I don't think is, by itself, a crime at all) or child sex-trafficking or whatever, there would have been some limit defined for the sentence (and even "life" is a limit that can be contested). But when you ship him off to another country and wash your hands of him, claiming there's nothing to be done about it now, aren't you also letting that other country set the sentence for the crime you claim he committed here? When you delegate that part of your system of justice to someone with no limit set for them to define when justice is achieved, you've just abrogated your responsibility for justice altogether.
 
Hercules56 said:
Nope. He's not accused of any crimes in the USA. Unless working illegally in the USA is a crime.
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I am wrong. Garcia had an order of protection against him for beating up his wife.

Real hero this guy :(

www.washingtonexaminer.com

DHS publicly releases restraining order against Kilmar Abrego Garcia to show 'history of violence'

The Department of Homeland Security released new information about Kilmar Abrego Garcia on Wednesday to dispel the democratic narrative that the El
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Hercules56 said:
I am wrong. Garcia had an order of protection against him for beating up his wife.

Real hero this guy :(

www.washingtonexaminer.com

DHS publicly releases restraining order against Kilmar Abrego Garcia to show 'history of violence'

The Department of Homeland Security released new information about Kilmar Abrego Garcia on Wednesday to dispel the democratic narrative that the El
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
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So you lose your due process rights when accused of DV? That's ten million people every year.
 
theprestige said:
ICE doesn't deport anyone on their own authority. They bring people before a judge, and excute deportations as ordered by that judge.

Do you have any examples of ICE agents ordering and carrying out deportations on their own authority? Which countries did they deport to? How did they effect the deportation?
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Do you have the right guy?
 
Skeptical Greg said:
I would really need more context to determine if I felt an ICE agent acted improperly in a particular situation.

With regard to what came before, has ICE been deporting people who are here legally but happen to be pro Palestinian?
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They appear to be working on that right now. Trump wants to deport a girl for criticizing Israeli actions in Palestine. She has not supported Hamas or terrorism, simply wrote an op-ed critical of Israel. She is now detained and facing deportation.
 
Hercules56 said:
They appear to be working on that right now. Trump wants to deport a girl for criticizing Israeli actions in Palestine. She has not supported Hamas or terrorism, simply wrote an op-ed critical of Israel. She is now detained and facing deportation.
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Rumeysa Ozturk.
A doctoral student from Tufts University is detailing how she was detained by ICE just steps from her home in Somerville, Massachusetts last month and said she feared for her life when she was taken into custody.
Rumeysa Ozturk, 30, who has since been moved to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Basile, Louisiana, provided an updated account of what happened to her as she walked along a street on March 25, in a document filed by her lawyers in federal court Thursday.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-ice-detained/
Ozturk is among several people with ties to American universities whose visas were revoked or have been stopped from entering the U.S. after they were accused of attending demonstrations or publicly expressed support for Palestinians. On Friday, a Louisiana immigration judge ruled that the U.S. can deport Columbia University graduate student Mahmoud Khalil based on the federal government's argument that he poses a national security risk.

"I felt very scared and concerned as the men surrounded me and grabbed my phone from me," Ozturk said in the statement. They told her they were police, and one quickly showed what might have been a gold badge. "But I didn't think they were the police because I had never seen police approach and take someone away like this," she said.

Ozturk said she was afraid because her name, photograph and work history were published earlier this year on the website Canary Mission, which describes itself as documenting people who "promote hatred of the U.S.A., Israel and Jews on North American college campuses."
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Hercules56 said:
He is soooo full of ◊◊◊◊ he should see a proctologist to examine his mouth.

Op-eds are not protests.
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Yes.

For reference.

Homeland Security has accused Ozturk of being pro-Hamas and said that her visa had been terminated. Her friends say she's being punished for co-authoring an op-ed in the Tufts Daily campus newspaper last year, calling on Tufts to "acknowledge the Palestinian genocide" and divest from Israel. There was no mention of Hamas.
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