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Odd. I just scrolled through like 100 comments and didn't find anything like that.

Either way, it sure is touching seeing that small child watch this, I'll tell you. :D

https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/...texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/

It is easily understandable why many parents would consider this abusive to children. It's just not a good look.

Then they shouldn't have taken their child to what was obviously an adult-oriented event. It's hardly fair to blame the performer for that.

Oh, and here's the reply:

https://twitter.com/MacPena/status/1582532523766095872
 
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Found this related to the group in the OP.



https://texasscorecard.com/state/defend-our-kids-texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/

And the NSFW Drag video, on twitter (also viewable in the linked article):

https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/...texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/


Honestly, I don't see how anyone can expect all parents to be OK with this?
No one expects all parents to be Ok. What everyone here is saying is that there needs to be parental discretion. Everyone that is apart from you. You and your ilk in the OP want to refuse parental choice and have the state control entry.
 
Yes, I am intentionally not taking the conversation there. It is a waste of time.

It is not a waste of time. In fact, it is the fundamental question that underlies the whole discussion.

If you cannot explain why drag shows are inappropriate, there is no reason talking about any of this.

So, what is inappropriate about the objective listed above? Either put up or, as they say, shut up. Because if you can't put up here, then everything is, indeed, a waste of time.
 
Please quote the section which says that they're going to teach kids to dress in drag.

Bah, nonsense.

Let's grant for the sake of argument that they do.

And? So the heck what?

You know, if you accept the premise that "drag is bad" the whole house of cards falls.
 
Of course.

But some liberals seem to be against that very notion. Hence they shun of the idea of age-appropriate restrictions on events such as DSH.

Also, it doesn't matter whether you can see the problem or not. We aren't just talking about your kids. "I don't see a problem with kids being exposed to xyz", is not a valid argument that it should be acceptable to everyone, or even the default.

That word right there. You just said that parents should be allowed to decide what their kids see, and then used the exact word which exactly means exactly the opposite. "Restrict" and "allow" do not play well together.
 
That word right there. You just said that parents should be allowed to decide what their kids see, and then used the exact word which exactly means exactly the opposite. "Restrict" and "allow" do not play well together.


Age-appropriate restrictions. Like requiring a parent or legal guardian to accompany certain ages. Come on, Bruto.

Or are you going be the next to demand zero measures?

Because if that is the game, I guess I would have to side with those who want to ban the events.
 
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That word right there. You just said that parents should be allowed to decide what their kids see, and then used the exact word which exactly means exactly the opposite. "Restrict" and "allow" do not play well together.

Warp12 has been very clear in this thread that he supports the silencing of parent voices and he supports parental responsibility being curtailed (he does not believe that parents should be able to choose what their child sees).
 
Age-appropriate restrictions. Like requiring a parent or legal guardian to accompany certain ages. Come on, Bruto.

Or are you going be the next to demand zero measures?

Because if that is the game, I guess I would have to side with those who want to ban the events.

There it is. It was never about concerned parents. It was about imposing on parents.
 
Ban what events?

And, maybe more important, what does he think is happening at those events?

If it is a man in a dress doing nothing more than reading a children's book to children, what is the objection?

ETA: And maybe even more important than that, why do parents with an objection get to make the decision to go to those events for parents who do not have an objection?
 
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Age-appropriate restrictions. Like requiring a parent or legal guardian to accompany certain ages. Come on, Bruto.

Or are you going be the next to demand zero measures?

Because if that is the game, I guess I would have to side with those who want to ban the events.

What makes you think all drag shows are sexual and actually deserve parental discretion?

Seriously, exactly what about these shows are so evil that children need protection from?

Have you ever been to a Drag Show? I would bet money you haven’t.

Should your kids be protected from seeing Mrs Doubtfire? How about Charlie's Aunt? Bosom Buddies? Some Like it Hot? As I mentioned it before. In Elizabethen times there was no such thing as actresses. Men played all the female roles.

What horrible fate is to become of these children by seeing a man dressed up as a woman or a woman dressed up as man?

You think my experience watching Corporal Klinger in a dress made me want to put one on? Or Jack Benny, John Travolta, Tony Curtis, Jack Lemon, Billy Crystal, Dustin Hoffman, Patrick Swayze etc etc.
 
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You keep saying that these parents have a right to their concerns. Based upon what, exactly?

There are valid reasons for restricting alcohol or drugs from children (although I agree with demystifying alcohol) because they are harmful. What harm comes from drag shows?
 
Age-appropriate restrictions. Like requiring a parent or legal guardian to accompany certain ages. Come on, Bruto.

Or are you going be the next to demand zero measures?

Because if that is the game, I guess I would have to side with those who want to ban the events.
Zero measures and zero laws are not the same thing. First it would help to know if an actual problem exists. All we know so far is that people whose language makes it plain that they consider anything of that nature abhorrent abhor it.
 
A database error interrupted my response here, so I will add it here, though it might be a bit late:

The website in question contains no evidence that a problem actually exists, and contains abundant evidence that the person running it considers the events in question inherently abhorrent and degenerate, and openly denigrates not only those but all who disagree with her political slant.

And yet, you jump at the opportunity to empower people whose own writings drip with bigotry and intolerance to formulate the laws by which we all live. People whose expressed and open intent is to deprive us all of choice; not to oppose but to combat political dissent; and whose almost certain further intent is to marginalize or even criminalize not just some abstract people but people you yourself have loved and respected; to forbid and reject not just the things you reject, but those you don't; to outlaw behavior you yourself have enjoyed.

I think too many people are willing to give up too much to serve principles so vague they have difficulty even defining them.

I repeat what I think I said before. Whatever it seems to purport, this website is not about controlling a problem (whose very existence is uncertain). It is about suppressing and eradicating, reversing what some see as social progress and others see as sin. If you let people like that make the laws, you're inviting a whole lot more than you think you're after. You'll get their laws as well as yours, and they'll bowl you over once more with their all-or-nothing false dichotomy. Burn the village to save it. Fine if you are happy with that, but a big mistake if you are not.
 
Kids are not walking around the city freely with their house keys anymore. Those days are long gone. I can't remember the last time I saw a child in their front yard playing.

That same mythical kid can walk into a theater, buy a ticket for Bambi and walk into 50 Shades Of Gray. No law broken. Most theaters don't care nor would most even notice.

Go to a library and tell me how many unattended 8 year-olds you see. You will see zero. One place I never ever ever went when I had the freedom to ride my bike wherever I wanted was the library, at any age.

"Hey dudes, wanna go check out porn at the library?" Never said by anyone.

As stated above not all drag shows are sexual.
 
A database error interrupted my response here, so I will add it here, though it might be a bit late:

The website in question contains no evidence that a problem actually exists, and contains abundant evidence that the person running it considers the events in question inherently abhorrent and degenerate, and openly denigrates not only those but all who disagree with her political slant.

And yet, you jump at the opportunity to empower people whose own writings drip with bigotry and intolerance to formulate the laws by which we all live. People whose expressed and open intent is to deprive us all of choice; not to oppose but to combat political dissent; and whose almost certain further intent is to marginalize or even criminalize not just some abstract people but people you yourself have loved and respected; to forbid and reject not just the things you reject, but those you don't; to outlaw behavior you yourself have enjoyed.

I think too many people are willing to give up too much to serve principles so vague they have difficulty even defining them.

I repeat what I think I said before. Whatever it seems to purport, this website is not about controlling a problem (whose very existence is uncertain). It is about suppressing and eradicating, reversing what some see as social progress and others see as sin. If you let people like that make the laws, you're inviting a whole lot more than you think you're after. You'll get their laws as well as yours, and they'll bowl you over once more with their all-or-nothing false dichotomy. Burn the village to save it. Fine if you are happy with that, but a big mistake if you are not.

Well said as usual.
 
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