Drag Shows!!

[Robin]

I still can't see the problem. I would have been happy for my kids to go to a drag show, as long as it wasn't obscene.

Shouldn't parents be allowed to decide what their kids see?

 

[The Don]

I still can't see the problem. I would have been happy for my kids to go to a drag show, as long as it wasn't obscene.

Shouldn't parents be allowed to decide what their kids see?

IMO the reasoning goes something like.....

Any parent who would allow their child to be exposed to something as depraved as a Drag Show is unfit to make a decision like this on behalf of their child. Because of this, "responsible" adults need to protect children from the poor decisions that their parents make.

For example, a parent may decide that it's fine to give their 7 year old a glass of whiskey and a cigarette but there are laws in place to protect their child - this is the same kind of thing.

Utter nonsense IMO but that's what I think the justification is.

 

[Stacyhs]

I still can't see the problem. I would have been happy for my kids to go to a drag show, as long as it wasn't obscene.

Shouldn't parents be allowed to decide what their kids see?

Only if those parents agree with the GOP Karens' ideas of what's appropriate. Otherwise, no.

Parental rights are 'fine for me but not for thee'.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

All of Conservative Morals are based on the principle of the Frankfurter Case: You're free to chose as long as you chose what we want you to.

 

[Lothian]

Also, I am not sure about every library's policies for children. But I can tell you, by age 8 I was a "latch-key" kid. Meaning, I had a house key and was unattended for much of the day. So, many kids like that might just wind up at the library, I imagine. So, you know, I think the discussion of age-appropriate restrictions is very relevant to this topic.

Or at least a relevant concern for parents.

Deadbeat parents who abrogate their responsibility to care for their offspring and rely on the school of life to bring them up can't complain if life decides to teach them things (like accepting people for who they are and tolerance) that they hate.

Where this group are going wrong is trying to fix the world in a way so they can neglect their children and hope they will be brought up by society in a way they would like.

The big problem with that is people believe in different things. Only one worldview can prevail, everything else is banned. There is no parental choice.

If you want to have choice you need people to be able to choose. These people don't want any choice. They have no interest in helping their children learn to make sensible choices they don't want to spend time with their children.

They are pathetic snowflakes complaining that they are being forced to parent properly. Twats.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

I wonder what some folk make of Tom of Finland...I mean, all those very butch, muscly, hyper-masculine men...OK, most of them have their knobs out, so you are in no doubt that they are MEN, but all very masculine and manly...Just ask Rob Halford.

 

[bluesjnr]

I wonder what some folk make of Tom of Finland...I mean, all those very butch, muscly, hyper-masculine men...OK, most of them have their knobs out, but all very masculine and manly...Just ask Rob Halford.

Can't deny that I'm struggling to see how a leading creator of gay pornographic images and "out" Judas Priests lead singer manifesting them in his stage attire fits into a discussion about drag artists reading to children.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Can't deny that I'm struggling to see how a leading creator of gay pornographic images and "out" Judas Priests lead singer manifesting them in his stage attire fits into a discussion about drag artists reading to children.

A tangent relating to exaggerated depictions of gender stereotypes...

 

[Warp12]

I still can't see the problem. I would have been happy for my kids to go to a drag show, as long as it wasn't obscene.

Shouldn't parents be allowed to decide what their kids see?

Of course.

But some liberals seem to be against that very notion. Hence they shun of the idea of age-appropriate restrictions on events such as DSH.

Also, it doesn't matter whether you can see the problem or not. We aren't just talking about your kids. "I don't see a problem with kids being exposed to xyz", is not a valid argument that it should be acceptable to everyone, or even the default.

 

[Darat]

Yes. Did I claim otherwise? Not sure where you got that from. The point was that referring to Drag Queens as a slight variation of clowns is, imo, a very simplistic analysis. Perhaps even disingenuous. Especially based on some of the "mission-statements" I've read.

I have repeatedly stated that my primary concern is the voices of concerned parents being silenced. This is a common trend with liberals, these days. To downplay, discredit, and flat-out try to take away the voices of conservative parents. As usual, it is front-and-center in this thread, too.

We know - but you are quite happy for the voices of the non-concerned parents to be silenced.

That you only want to silence those that disagree with you, doesn't make it virtuous.

 

[Darat]

You can't imagine how funny that sounds, considering the consensus in this thread, and the overall venue.

Look, it does not matter where Drag Queens fall in The Pocket Guide to Freaks, Geeks, and Fetishes. What matters is that liberals stop trying discredit, minimize, and silence conservative parents and their concerns.

The fact that I consider Drag Queens weirdos, freaks, or whatever...I have a right to that opinion. Just like someone who feels the opposite has a right to theirs.

But it doesn't matter to you if conservatives try to discredit, minimize, and silence liberal parents and their concerns.

(Please note I am using your incoherent definitions for conservatives and liberal)

 

[Lothian]

Of course.

But some liberals seem to be against that very notion. Hence they shun of the idea of age-appropriate restrictions on events such as DSH.

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How does banning people from attending ,= choice.

This is rightwing snowflakes trying to ban events to stop other people's children attending events.

Is is very disappointing that someone who claims to be pro parental choice is supporting a group that is looking to ban events and remove choice.

 

[Darat]

Yes, I am intentionally not taking the conversation there. It is a waste of time.

I have earlier stated that I am not suggesting an outright ban. But rather age-appropriate restrictions. It should be enough for me to say I don't want my young child to have access to it; whether or not I can be standing over them at every moment of the day, or at every venue such an event might be presented.

Parents have a legitimate right to these concerns.

Enforced by?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I think there is a simple solution that will satisfy Warp: have every minor implanted with a chip on which the parents can encode what they can and cannot do on their own. A sensor to every shop or public building can read it and act accordingly.

 

[Darat]

Yes, I am intentionally not taking the conversation there. It is a waste of time.

I have earlier stated that I am not suggesting an outright ban. But rather age-appropriate restrictions. It should be enough for me to say I don't want my young child to have access to it; whether or not I can be standing over them at every moment of the day, or at every venue such an event might be presented.

Parents have a legitimate right to these concerns.

Are there other areas that you want parents stripped of their rights and their responsibilities to be removed and given to the state?

 

[Warp12]

Found this related to the group in the OP.

“This is something that was overtly sexual. They clearly said, ‘All ages welcome.’ And now, apparently the left is gaslighting me into thinking that I’m somehow the crazy one for having a problem with this,” Gonzales told Carlson

https://texasscorecard.com/state/defend-our-kids-texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/

And the NSFW Drag video, on twitter (also viewable in the linked article):

https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/...texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/


Honestly, I don't see how anyone can expect all parents to be OK with this?

 

[3point14]

Of course.

But some liberals seem to be against that very notion. Hence they shun of the idea of age-appropriate restrictions on events such as DSH.

Also, it doesn't matter whether you can see the problem or not. We aren't just talking about your kids. "I don't see a problem with kids being exposed to xyz", is not a valid argument that it should be acceptable to everyone, or even the default.

We're talking about kids. Their parents are in control of where they go and what they see.

Parents who are not in control of where their kids go and what they see are, quite frankly, ******* awful parents, and the solution for this is not to ban everything that those who cannot parent their own children effectively don't want their kids to see, but for those parents to be better.


Bottom line - If you don't want your kids to see a thing, simply don't let them see it. It's not a tricky concept.

 

[Upchurch]

Of course.

But some liberals seem to be against that very notion.

You are against that very notion.

 

[Matthew Best]

Found this related to the group in the OP.



https://texasscorecard.com/state/defend-our-kids-texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/

And the NSFW Drag video, on twitter (also viewable in the linked article):

https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/...texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/


Honestly, I don't see how anyone can expect all parents to be OK with this?

I just had to scroll down a few replies to find out that it was not marked as "All ages welcome". In fact it was marked:

"This event contains strong language and suggestive dialogue and may not be appropriate for all ages. Viewer discretion is advised."

"If you would not allow your children to see a Rated R movie, this is not the event for them."

 

[Warp12]

I just had to scroll down a few replies to find out that it was not marked as "All ages welcome". In fact it was marked:

"This event contains strong language and suggestive dialogue and may not be appropriate for all ages. Viewer discretion is advised."

"If you would not allow your children to see a Rated R movie, this is not the event for them."

Odd. I just scrolled through like 100 comments and didn't find anything like that.

Either way, it sure is touching seeing that small child watch this, I'll tell you.

https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/...texas-to-expose-lefts-perversion-of-children/

It is easily understandable why many parents would consider this abusive to children. It's just not a good look.