Drag Shows!!

[Darat]

...snip...

But again, this is more about the whole concept of silencing parental concerns, imo....snip...

Which as we can all see from your posts in this thread you are fine for as long as that silencing matches what you want silenced.

 

[BobTheCoward]

A post of mine was moved because it replied to another post that was removed. So I wanted to separately extend an offer to warp that I'm happy to answer any questions about my experience of taking my 5 year old

 

[Darat]

They are giving parents a voice, a venue to express concern. It seems to be an activist organization. Activism is not just isolated to liberal concerns, after all. If there is a website to report a concern of liberal parents, I am not going to spam it in attempt to silence them.

But again, we are losing sight of the issue. Why is it acceptable to silence the voices of these (or any) parents? What is wrong with expressing concerns about activities/events that your child may be exposed to against your wishes?

No there is no "we" doing that - the only one that is doing that is you.

After all it is you that wishes to silence those parents that disagree with the activists behind the site mentioned in the opening post.

No one but you has called for the silencing of any parent's voice.

 

[3point14]

I would strongly disagree with that assessment. Refusing to endorse every fetish that comes along does not make someone "sexually repressed". Especially when it comes to what young children are exposed to.

It just makes you wonder what kind of man gets up in the morning and decides, "I'm going to dress like a woman, to flamboyant excess, and hopefully find some young kids to hang out with". Libs will often say, "the kids are too young to understand it". Well, if so, why are these weirdos doing it? For what benefit?

We all know to what "benefit". To normalize such abnormal behaviors at a very early age. I mean, that is the best case scenario, I suppose.

But aside from that, what is worse, is that some feel they are doing something heroic by silencing the voices of concerned parents, by doing things like spamming the website in the OP. Drag Queens might be fine for you and your young kids, but don't attempt to take away the voice of disagreeing parents, and then celebrate doing so.

I'm really curious as to what you think the negative result of seeing a bloke in a frock might be. Or indeed, what the negative consequenses of being a bloke in a frock might be. Other than, of course, incurring the wrath of people such as yourself that can't, for some reason, cope with seeing a bloke in a frock.

 

[BobTheCoward]

I'm really curious as to what you think the negative result of seeing a bloke in a frock might be. Or indeed, what the negative consequenses of being a bloke in a frock might be. Other than, of course, incurring the wrath of people such as yourself that can't, for some reason, cope with seeing a bloke in a frock.

Knowing the answer to your question is trivially easy....are you trying to get someone to justify that answer to you?

 

[Lothian]

But again, we are losing sight of the issue. Why is it acceptable to silence the voices of these (or any) parents?

These people are trying to ban a show and doing so are seeking to remove parental choice and silence the majority who are happy. This is not about expressing an opinion which all can do is it specifically activism to impose a world view on others.

What is wrong with expressing concerns about activities/events that your child may be exposed to against your wishes?

Nothing although there is absolutely no need for any child to be exposed to a show. There is parental choice on whether to attend. Banning a show is not expressing concerns and that is what this group is wanting to do.

 

[Lothian]

I'm really curious as to what you think the negative result of seeing a bloke in a frock might be. Or indeed, what the negative consequenses of being a bloke in a frock might be. Other than, of course, incurring the wrath of people such as yourself that can't, for some reason, cope with seeing a bloke in a frock.

I am interested to know as someone who has worn a 'frock' on many occasiond. I am sure many a child would see my kilt as a skirt.

 

[BobTheCoward]

These people are trying to ban a show and doing so are seeking to remove parental choice and silence the majority who are happy. This is not about expressing an opinion which all can do is it specifically activism to impose a world view on others.

We probably shouldn't silence people trying to impose a world view. That is fundamentally what petitioning the government is.

 

[3point14]

Knowing the answer to your question is trivially easy....are you trying to get someone to justify that answer to you?

I'd like an answer to the question, as I really don't see any issue with it at all.

What's wrong with a bloke in a frock?

Do some people still object to ladies in trousers?

 

[BobTheCoward]

I'd like an answer to the question, as I really don't see any issue with it at all.

What's wrong with a bloke in a frock?

Do some people still object to ladies in trousers?

Here is the trivially easy answer

It is an encouraged by groomers because they know this behavior is ultimately inseparable from deviant sexuality, normalizing it for children, and making them more susceptible to child sexual assault

I'm a little surprised you hadn't heard this before

 

[3point14]

Here is the trivially easy answer

It is an encouraged by groomers because they know this behavior is ultimately inseparable from deviant sexuality, normalizing it for children, and making them more susceptible to child sexual assault

I'm a little surprised you hadn't heard this before

Well, that's just utterly, utterly mental. I was hoping for something a little more thought through. I should have known better.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Well, that's just utterly, utterly mental. I was hoping for something a little more thought through. I should have known better.

There are some more banal ones, but they basically amount to, "I think it is immoral" and either they should impose their morality on you or they think they should be insulated from the risk of their child choosing to participate against the parents wishes

 

[bruto]

Well, that's just utterly, utterly mental. I was hoping for something a little more thought through. I should have known better.

Judging from other posts in this thread, though I may be wrong, I think Bob is providing the argument that is made by some, not an argument that is made by him. If that is correct, the frailty of the argument is not his.

 

[Donal]

If we can take a break from feeding the trolls who are successfully derailing another thread, what addresses can we report?

I heard there was a big drag event going on at 1010 Colorado Street in Austin.

 

[3point14]

Judging from other posts in this thread, though I may be wrong, I think Bob is providing the argument that is made by some, not an argument that is made by him. If that is correct, the frailty of the argument is not his.

Yes, I belatedly realised that.

I was railing against the world (a worthwhile and productive pursuit...) rather than against Bob.

Sorry Bob.

 

[Upchurch]

First, I don't agree with that being the intent.

You may not agree that it is the intent, but can you see that it is a direct effect?

But are you saying that your concerns trump someone else's right to have a voice?

No one is being silenced. No one is being forced to go to drag shows against their wills (well, maybe kids who'd rather be watching TV or playing video games, but that has nothing to do with drag queens reading stories).

By making drag illegal, it is denying parents the choice of what they expose their children to. This is not a "both sides" issue.

 

[3point14]

If it were up to me, no children should be exposed to Harry Potter, as I believe they should only be exposed to good storytelling, but you don't see me outside the bookshop with a placard.

 

[BobTheCoward]

If it were up to me, no children should be exposed to Harry Potter, as I believe they should only be exposed to good storytelling, but you don't see me outside the bookshop with a placard.

Have you read them? I read the first 4 to my kid...not bad

 

[3point14]

Have you read them? I read the first 4 to my kid...not bad

About half of them. This would be a major derail and is probably my bugbear and mine alone.


We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, bickering about blokes in frocks.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Minors attending drag shows, like public libraries exposing kids to hard-core porn and freakish values being pressed on children by public school teachers, is apparently one of those invisible plagues, like the TicTok 'nail your balls to the wall challenge'. Won't someone please think of the children???