Drag Shows!!

[The Great Zaganza]

It's always a slippery slope if the OTHERS do it.

 

[Resume]

Because not wanting your young children exposed to cross-dressing freaks . . .

Better keep 'em away from churches, priests, pastors, bishops . . .


ETA: And Monty Python, especially Monty Python.

 

[bruto]

Except, of course, the freedom to put on clothes of the opposite sex and talk to children. Unless, of course, you're a lady, in which case wear clothes of the opposite sex all you like.
I continue to believe this is all mental.

So far...

 

[Craig4]

I have two Cobra Golds under my belt and I never accidentally had sex with a Thai boy.

As long as you enjoyed it and there was mutual consent, that's all that matters.

 

[bluesjnr]

I have two Cobra Golds under my belt and I never accidentally had sex with a Thai boy.

I hear ya bro....

 

[Armitage72]

So far...

I remember AM radio raving lunatic Michael Savage vehemently criticizing a politician in California (a Democrat, naturally) because she wore jeans in public.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

So are you saying that parents should not have a voice in a what their children are exposed to? That it is ok to actively attempt to silence them? The particular objection is hardly the main point, here.

Unless the position is, "I approve of xyz, therefore nobody else is deserving of a voice".

Taking that last sentence: "I disapprove of xyz, therefore nobody else is deserving of a voice".

Who is being silenced again?

Parents who want to stop drag shows for kids such as the one where men in drag read books to kids at the library​

Why don't these parents just intervene with their own kids instead of everyone's?

 

[xjx388]

Sure it does. The intent is to overload the content in order to drown out the voices of the concerned. Eventually this invariably leads to the "tip line" becoming unviable.

Besides you have already fairly well stated that you think it is ok to silence their voices, anyway.

When this group gets a tip, the plan is that they will go protest and/or try to get the show shut down.

This group is attempting to silence the voices of parents who want to take their kids to these shows.

Fight fire with fire, I say.

Look, these concerned parents are not my ******* parents. Control your own kids and stay away from mine.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

No, I don't support the universal ban you mention. I support parents having a voice, and I support age-appropriate restrictions be in place for such events.

Age appropriate by whose opinion?

But again, this is more about the whole concept of silencing parental concerns, imo. It is a common liberal theme, these days. My individual concerns about Drag Queens are minor in the grand scheme, and I have no interest in continuously debating them.

Round and round you go ignoring other's point and repeating yours.

It's a common right-wing theme, force everyone to follow alt-right Christian beliefs by making everyone comply via laws, regulations and other forms of interference.

 

[shemp]

I have two Cobra Golds under my belt and I never accidentally had sex with a Thai boy.

So, it was intentional?

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

I always find this accusation interesting. Would you care to share exactly what unacceptable feelings or impulses Warp12 is attributing to someone else and what it is he is avoiding confronting?

He did say he loved the first couple of series. To love the first couple of seconds of a Brendan O'Carroll show you first need to have your sense of humour surgically removed.

Don't forget RTÉ inflicted him on us for years before he moved across the water.

 

[autumn1971]

Hilarious. So you figure their concern, about say, a completely unrestricted Drag Queen event at a public venue..is entirely unreasonable? So you figure the best thing to do is silence their voices? That'll teach 'em to be concerned about their kids, right?

Interesting.

How wrong could this post be? How are parents being silenced?

Not “How are parents being exposed to opinions they don’t like”

Not “how are parents being forced to take their kids to drag shows”

How, in your Warped mind, (not meant to be offensive, just couldn’t resist the pun,) has the government silenced these parents’ ability to have their message heard?
I’ve just now heard about their opinion on a “leftist” forum, how did the silencing of every parent fail to prevent me from hearing their concerns?

 

[Warp12]

How wrong could this post be? How are parents being silenced?

Not “How are parents being exposed to opinions they don’t like”

Not “how are parents being forced to take their kids to drag shows”

How, in your Warped mind, (not meant to be offensive, just couldn’t resist the pun,) has the government silenced these parents’ ability to have their message heard?
I’ve just now heard about their opinion on a “leftist” forum, how did the silencing of every parent fail to prevent me from hearing their concerns?

I think you may be confused about the debate. Nobody said the government was attempting to silence them. Maybe read through the thread; it has all been discussed.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

And it's not an awfully long time ago that boy children wore dresses and had long curls and wore pink...

I must say that going to drag shows like panto and church never made me want to wear a skirt: my legs are too long and shaving them would result in huge bloodshed...

And I once had a colleague who did a great act as Marilyn Monroe (especially good as he was of Italian extraction and had somewhat olive skin) and it never made me (blond and pale) want to dress up as Jane Russell.

 

[deadrose]

A bit surprised nobody's brought up the incident down the road from us - I was pretty sure it made national news at least. The local taproom (which is family friendly) has had a monthly drag storytime for over a year. A few weeks ago, some anti-drag folks found out and announced a big protest outside the taproom. The next day, someone fired shots at their front window.

The original protest group cancelled, as it was not their intention to cause violence, the few protestors were greatly outnumbered by counter-protestors, and storytime went on as usual. I bet a lot of patrons are choosing seats away from the windows now, though.

Honestly, shooting up a business because of a drag story hour? What is the difference between the reader showing up as a drag queen, a clown, a princess, or a purple dinosaur? It's all just dress-up to the kids. It's only weird when you make it so.

I honestly don't know how people miss that they're being led by the nose to the Right Wing Outrage of the Week, whether it's satanic panics, her emails, children being trafficked by furniture sales, drag queens, gay teachers... the list is endless, and every time one loses steam they just start another.

Please note: No, I will NOT get sidetracked into discussing every other right wing outrage. This thread is for drag performers. You know, like the Pythons and Milton Berle.

 

[Norman Alexander]

I suspect everyone has missed the point about these conservatives wanting to stop drags reading to kids. It's the "reading to kids" part, not the drag.

Heaven knows, they might read them some filth, like classic American children's literature such as Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn, or exciting modern literature like Dr Suess. Or stories about children and people in other countries. And that might trigger an impulse to be curious and read more, and find out more about more stuff, and broaden their minds!

No, this shall not stand, sayeth the conservatives! Education is anathema! The children might learn about something more than the limited, biased, nasty ******* tripe they as parents know. Then the kids will not grow up to be those parents.

So better to shame the drags who read to their kids than admit they can't read themselves.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Just think back to the days when we only had 2 TV channels here and yet drag performers, or other performers dragging up, were regularly on mainstream comedy and light entertainment shows (Dick Emery, Danny La Rue - a favourite of my paternal grandmother, who also loved the camp of the Staurday afternoon wrestling - Les Dawson and..and...)It's amazing that we aren't just a bunch of out and out queens, isn't it?

 

[Upchurch]

Nobody said the government was attempting to silence them.

In fact, nobody is attempting to silence them.

 

[Venom]

Oh stfu with the "concerned parents". They are brainwashed parents.

How was this never a problem before until rightwing pundits made it one?

 

[mgidm86]

No, but calling them freaks might.

I don't ignore people who disagree with me, I ignore haters, instigators and people who have nothing of value to add. Anyone calling them freaks...I just don't need to engage with that person. Someone like that adds nothing to a discussion or to my own life.