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Dowsing by a Skeptic

By the way, SiskMick has posted that winning a $ 1 million from the JREF challenge would probably not be important to him (a theme given by many paranormal claimants when they are asked if they would consider the challenge). I just wanted him to know that even though I can continue to live well without the $ 1 million, if he ever won it, I would be happy to have him transfer it to me. An extra $1 million would probably not change the fundamentals of my life, but would be very useful in general to me. And I don't think the money is cursed. By the way, if anyone tells you that your money is cursed and that they can remove the curse if you withdraw the money and give it to them as cash in a paper bag, I suggest that you not do that. I've seen the result on TV...

He'd probably want to dowse you for neediness. He can douse for anything you know.
 
A personal plea to Saskmick,

Saskmick, I got to thinking. If you would be good enough to devote around 3-4 days, in total, of your time and apply for the Million Dollar Challenge you could help the following charities when you inevitably win it.

  1. Yubu Development Agency
  2. Women Entrepreneurs Of Saskatchewan Inc We
  3. Lutheran Theological Seminary Saskatoon
  4. Kinsmen Foundation
  5. Sunnyside Adventist Care Centre
  6. Scat Street Cat Rescue Program
  7. Southern Sudan Humanitarian Action Development Agency
  8. Shakespeare On The Saskatchewan Festival
  9. Partners For The Saskatchewan River Basin

There are another 21/2 pages of good causes you could help and you can find them here. I think they are all fairly local to you and you could remain anonymous if you preferred to.

If you'd rather not help these then perhaps going for a straight win would be a good strategy as this would allow you to fund world travel where you could dowse for missing people (especially children). Maybe you could help drought ridden areas on our planet where the death rate caused by drought is 50,000-260,000? In fact, when I think about it, now that you know you can, without a shred of doubt, dowse for anything it kind of places a moral obligation upon you to do something to alleviate such a terrible human tragedy.

I'm 100% certain that you will do nothing to help, despite having the power to do so. If I'm right (and I hope I'm not) can you tell me why you choose to let people die, good causes to flounder and missing people (children) to remain so when all it needs is for you to turn up and dowse.

Please let me know your thoughts and any plans you have to make the most substantial difference to mankind across the globe ever known in the history of the world.

As you ponder, can you ask your mates over in the dowsing forum why they are sitting on their arses doing **** all? They must be inhuman.
 
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I don't think SaskMick will do that, you see, those charities will not benefit from SaskMick winning the Million Dollar Challenge, because SaskMick himself doesn't need it.

Sure I could use it, it would give me great pleasure to spread it around, but I don't need it
 
Olowkow #757

Another super post.

and bluesjnr #765

Well said.
 
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Can someone dowse me up an answer to the math here. (They promised me no math in GenSkepPara.)

Here are Jack Coe's numbers.

Apparently he finds 215 wells a year. Wow! That's one for each working day of the year.

See below:



But that's nuttin'! He apparently averages more than 1 per day, every day, according to this blurb.



Now, assuming that he isn't just pulling those figures out of his butt, that could mean 215 successful wells out of "over 400" sites. That's about 50/50. How does that relate to the chance of finding water at any given location?

More Math:

400 sites per year at IIRC $985 per site = $394,000/yr, not a bad salary for something you do for the good of mankind.
 
By the way, SiskMick has posted that winning a $ 1 million from the JREF challenge would probably not be important to him (a theme given by many paranormal claimants when they are asked if they would consider the challenge). I just wanted him to know that even though I can continue to live well without the $ 1 million, if he ever won it, I would be happy to have him transfer it to me. An extra $1 million would probably not change the fundamentals of my life, but would be very useful in general to me. And I don't think the money is cursed. By the way, if anyone tells you that your money is cursed and that they can remove the curse if you withdraw the money and give it to them as cash in a paper bag, I suggest that you not do that. I've seen the result on TV...

There's where you make a mistake, the money has the Curse of Randi, the skeptic stink on it and no good can come from the use of it, however I can remove the curse by dowsing just send me a check for 10% and when the check arrives I'll hold my rod and staff over it and remove the curse, since what's whole in part is whole in all the curse will be removed from all the money.

:)
 
A personal plea to Saskmick,

Saskmick, I got to thinking. If you would be good enough to devote around 3-4 days, in total, of your time and apply for the Million Dollar Challenge you could help the following charities when you inevitably win it.

  1. Yubu Development Agency
  2. Women Entrepreneurs Of Saskatchewan Inc We
  3. Lutheran Theological Seminary Saskatoon
  4. Kinsmen Foundation
  5. Sunnyside Adventist Care Centre
  6. Scat Street Cat Rescue Program
  7. Southern Sudan Humanitarian Action Development Agency
  8. Shakespeare On The Saskatchewan Festival
  9. Partners For The Saskatchewan River Basin

There are another 21/2 pages of good causes you could help and you can find them here. I think they are all fairly local to you and you could remain anonymous if you preferred to.

If you'd rather not help these then perhaps going for a straight win would be a good strategy as this would allow you to fund world travel where you could dowse for missing people (especially children). Maybe you could help drought ridden areas on our planet where the death rate caused by drought is 50,000-260,000? In fact, when I think about it, now that you know you can, without a shred of doubt, dowse for anything it kind of places a moral obligation upon you to do something to alleviate such a terrible human tragedy.

I'm 100% certain that you will do nothing to help, despite having the power to do so. If I'm right (and I hope I'm not) can you tell me why you choose to let people die, good causes to flounder and missing people (children) to remain so when all it needs is for you to turn up and dowse.

Please let me know your thoughts and any plans you have to make the most substantial difference to mankind across the globe ever known in the history of the world.

As you ponder, can you ask your mates over in the dowsing forum why they are sitting on their arses doing **** all? They must be inhuman.
What, you left me off that list?

Just joking: but I agree: all this power to do good, yet the dowsers seem so uninterested. Even more so, non-altruistic people will do amazing things simply to make money, yet there is no sign of businesses routinely using dowsing to do so. Especially if dowsing works for anything one wishes as SiskMick claims,, from jewels in the earth to disease to lost items. The power of dowsing is incredible, yet it remains so far from routine in the industries that could benefit directly from it. I wonder why we have not routinely accepted dowsing as a real talent when we have accepted so many other talents and engineering feats over the past thousands of years (even some, such as Relativity, that seem so counterintuitive). Especially if so many people (50% according to SiskMick) can do it once they believe...
 
There's where you make a mistake, the money has the Curse of Randi, the skeptic stink on it and no good can come from the use of it, however I can remove the curse by dowsing just send me a check for 10% and when the check arrives I'll hold my rod and staff over it and remove the curse, since what's whole in part is whole in all the curse will be removed from all the money.

:)

Sounds good to me!
Wait a minute...
 
There's where you make a mistake, the money has the Curse of Randi, the skeptic stink on it and no good can come from the use of it, however I can remove the curse by dowsing just send me a check for 10% and when the check arrives I'll hold my rod and staff over it and remove the curse, since what's whole in part is whole in all the curse will be removed from all the money.
Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me...

That's either from Psalm 23 or a religious porno movie.
 
Please let me know when the ideomotor effect is no longer just a theory.
Gravity is a theory. Next time you are at the top of a cliff and want to get to the bottom, just step off, after all, it's "just" a theory that you will fall.

IXP
 
...and in reaction he challenged me to carry one wire in each hand over a known buried City water pipe and see for myself. I was amazed because I could feel the wires rotate and cross each other. To this day I can't really make sense of it. Some people have suggested that he secretly twisted the wires walking behind me but I don't think so.
The device you are describing is an overbalanced lever. It is sensitive to tilt and rotates easily, magnifying a tiny tilt to a big one. This is elementary physics, Watson.

It's similar to an electrical meter -- the old-style analog kind -- where a tiny current in the coil causes a small movement that is magnified by the length of the pointer/needle/lever.

You may not notice the tiny tilt, but you cannot escape notice of the big result, especially if it points to something you expect or want to expect.

So here's how you make the rod(s) move. As you approach something you want it to point to, just angle your hand ever so slightly so the rod swings around. It helps if you are moving your body in a favorable direction which will add to the effect (inertia at the rod's end). No one will notice the tilt or slight change in angle of your hand and will be amazed at how the rod "detects" whatever it is you want to find.

If you are using the traditional forked stick device instead, holding it in the traditional, palms-up manner, you will notice that squeezing your hand around the rod slightly will cause it to spring up (or down, your choice), even to the point of twisting off the bark, if the device has bark. Again, this is simple physics and the application of levers, not unlike a child's teeter-totter where one end goes up when the other goes down. Does that mystify anyone?

I tend to discount the ideomotor effect, since I can make a rod or pendulum do exactly what I want anytime without most people noticing. If I can, anyone else can, too.

Simple physics, nothing more.
 
There's where you make a mistake, the money has the Curse of Randi, the skeptic stink on it and no good can come from the use of it, however I can remove the curse by dowsing just send me a check for 10% and when the check arrives I'll hold my rod and staff over it and remove the curse, since what's whole in part is whole in all the curse will be removed from all the money.

:)

I'll do the same for 9%
 
I tend to discount the ideomotor effect, since I can make a rod or pendulum do exactly what I want anytime without most people noticing. If I can, anyone else can, too.

Certainly anyone can cheat deliberately, but the ideomotor effect allows people to cheat themselves and truly believe they are dowsing.
 

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