Merged Does CERN prove Einstein wrong?

Anders Lindman said:
So, doesn't this mean that Einstein's special relativity definitely is false? Or have I missed something?
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Venture a guess.

The photon travels at 2c in relation to the other photon, just as the car travels 200 km/h in relation to the other car (the speed limit is for the speed of the car relative to the road).
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Your conclusion proceeds from a false premise. The car does NOT travel 200km/h relative to the other car. It's very near 200, but not quite.

You believe Darwin's theory is correct? Good luck with that one.
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Why don't you throw Quantum Mechanics into this pot and we can simply declare that Anders Lindman thinks ALL of science is a sham ?
 
Anders Lindman said:
By fooling people to believe in Einstein's theories they can make us believe in all kinds of incredible fairy tales. We become really stupid. For example, according to Einstein's theories a person traveling in a rocket near the speed of light will speed up the entire universe! How can anyone seriously believe such garbage? Where did critical thinking go? Even physics professors believe in that crap. I think we desperately need to learn some real knowledge. Fast!
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Please don't speak for the rest of us when relating personal experience.
 
Anders Lindman said:
For example, according to Einstein's theories a person traveling in a rocket near the speed of light will speed up the entire universe!
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Thank you so very much for that nugget of Stundie Gold!!

Anders Lindman - the gift idiot that just keeps on giving.
 
Let's see, the best scientists in the world do not yet have an answer, but a thread on JREF can definitively answer the question?
 
Greedo said:
He did not actually say the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings were somehow fake, did he? :eye-poppi :boggled:


Anders, with all your amazing theories, please, how was it faked?
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They didn't drop the atomic bombs they said they did, but different weapons, based on the same technology and having the same effect.
 
aggle-rithm said:
They didn't drop the atomic bombs they said they did, but different weapons, based on the same technology and having the same effect.
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:melting

Sorry, but that is a completely new dimension of stupid.

Anders and Dusty should get together and find out what was really dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I'm sure there must be ample evidence in those plumes dust clouds fumes.

:sdl:
 
Anders Lindman said:
I'm not 100% sure but I strongly suspect the whole Apollo moon program was a hoax, a public cover for the real space program carried out by the secret NRO to establish U.S. military preeminence in space. I believe the Saturn V rocket was real but was used for military NRO purposes and maybe didn't have such large dimensions as they claim (try to find detailed official schematics for Saturn V).
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I remember this. Anders never addressed the fact that the US Military already had several real, documented space programs to establish US military preeminence in space, and that these programs were successful without any need to tap into NASA's Apollo budget or operations.

In fact, wasn't it the other way around? Weren't US Military space programs were leveraged by NASA to give its civilian projects a leg up (in terms of launch vehicles, etc.) in the early days?
 
theprestige said:
I remember this. Anders never addressed the fact that the US Military already had several real, documented space programs to establish US military preeminence in space, and that these programs were successful without any need to tap into NASA's Apollo budget or operations.

In fact, wasn't it the other way around? Weren't US Military space programs were leveraged by NASA to give its civilian projects a leg up (in terms of launch vehicles, etc.) in the early days?
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I love that claim that the schematics for the Saturn V can't be found...there are several ACTUAL Saturn V rockets on display...I've seen the one in Houston.

All you have to do is go there and use a tape measure.
 
aggle-rithm said:
I love that claim that the schematics for the Saturn V can't be found...there are several ACTUAL Saturn V rockets on display...I've seen the one in Houston.

All you have to do is go there and use a tape measure.
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LoL. Yeah, about the plans and schematics of the Apollo crafts (that includes the landing module), afaik they were destroyed because they just took too much room. The lunar landing module alone took a whole warehouse of boxes. Now imagine what space would be needed for the plans for a whole rocket!
 
Greedo said:
LoL. Yeah, about the plans and schematics of the Apollo crafts (that includes the landing module), afaik they were destroyed because they just took too much room. The lunar landing module alone took a whole warehouse of boxes. Now imagine what space would be needed for the plans for a whole rocket!
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Ironic, considering today they could fit on a single thumb drive.
 
aggle-rithm said:
I love that claim that the schematics for the Saturn V can't be found...there are several ACTUAL Saturn V rockets on display...I've seen the one in Houston.

All you have to do is go there and use a tape measure.
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Yeahh . . . you know, it really doesn't work like that, any more than you can figure out a cookie recipe by measuring the cookies.

(well, not quite that bad. But it's close)
 
dasmiller said:
Yeahh . . . you know, it really doesn't work like that, any more than you can figure out a cookie recipe by measuring the cookies.

(well, not quite that bad. But it's close)
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Well, for Anders' claim - which is just size - it does, though.
 
I'm a bit late to the party here and I admit I didn't read all 13 pages, but it is interesting stuff that I might get to at some point. I wonder if Anders Lindman or someone can explain more about the conspiracy claims. Is that claim that all scientists from Einstein onwards are in on the conspiracy? I assume they must be if the theory is so easily disproved, yet no reputable scientists have come forward to claim the fame and money and whatever else would come with proving that it was all an elaborate hoax.

Also, I'm wondering why there originally was any need for a conspiracy? Presumably this must have began back in the 1920s or 1930s whenever Einstein first began writing about relativity. I'm wondering what the reason would have been at that point.

I know most people do not believe in the theory, but I'm not interested in hearing more arguments against the theory at this point, just wondering if there is a post somewhere that explains it or if someone is willing to take the time to do so as I want to get up to speed on this thread but don't have time to read it all right now.
 
Apparently, according to Anders:
  • All senior ("second level") scientists are "in on it"
  • It's done so TheyTM can Retain Their Power
 
dasmiller said:
Yeahh . . . you know, it really doesn't work like that, any more than you can figure out a cookie recipe by measuring the cookies.

(well, not quite that bad. But it's close)
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Well, Anders' claim was about the dimensions, which can be easily measured.
 
grmcdorman said:
Apparently, according to Anders:
  • All senior ("second level") scientists are "in on it"
  • It's done so TheyTM can Retain Their Power
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So, let me guess. "They" maintain their power by flying around at twice the speed of light while the rest of us are bamboozled in to believing we can go no faster than half that?
 
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