Merged Does CERN prove Einstein wrong?

[tsig]

Alan Watt said that the ruling elite created the Internet for a precise purpose. I doubt that myself. I think the growth of the Internet has been largely organic.

Then what about this recent CERN result? Why didn't the shadow powers prevent that result? Maybe they WANT to expose themselves. Or, they will order CERN to tell a lie and force them to claim the result was a measuring error or something like that.

I don't have any other reasons at the moment. No, they would risk losing their power if they revealed powerful knowledge to the ordinary society because they are only a few people and the public is huge with billions of people, so they would very quickly lose their power to some other public forces in society.

By dangerous I mean like really dangerous, lol. Like zero-point energy weapons that can cut Earth in two in the hands of terrorists.

So why would they now want to expose their hoaxes as they seem to be doing? Wouldn't that make them lose their power? The reason could be that if they DON't give us the public their hidden scientific knowledge the whole civilization may risk collapsing. And they therefore need to bring out the secret knowledge to the public somehow, in a safe way, and also in for them personally a 100% safe way, without risking legal prosecutions or angry red-faced public mobs chasing them down the streets.

So the shadow powers are flashers that will be chased down by angry mobs? Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

 

[twinstead]

Isn't belief in some all-powerful shadow group that pulls the puppet strings from the darkness just a way for some people to not feel so helpless and not in control of their own lives?

 

[Hans]

Isn't belief in some all-powerful shadow group that pulls the puppet strings from the darkness just a way for some people to not feel so helpless and not in control of their own lives?

Kinda replaces blaming the 'devil' and evil spirits for bad things - it's the secret overlords.....

 

[little grey rabbit]

CERN: I am not going to mish....

I am sure you have wowwed JREF with this before, but do nuclear reactors also have coal fired generation plants hidden inside?

Who could fail to believe in a project that could produce dialogue like this?

Compton: The Italian navigator has landed in the New World.
Conant: How were the natives?
Compton: Everyone landed safe and happy.

I believe the natives were baked to a crisp. But who am I to cast aspersions on US military intelligence?

At risk of carrying on a soliloquy here, but why is this springing to mind?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBmgZv6YAxE

Letting lose the lunatics
Wasn't the smartest of ideas,
Giving them plans and money to play with
Should have been the worst of our fears

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Is it possible that the Manhattan project was a hoax?

I used to sleep right next to an operating nuclear reactor (well, about 30-40 feet away from it anyway). Nuclear power is real. How else do you think that we kept the lights on and the screw turning? We didn't trail a really long extension cord.

 

[Jontg]

Dark energy bombs... friction between photons and energy... god, it's so beautiful.

 

[Mojo]

The title of this video is wrong, it's not the Hiroshima bomb...

Yes, that was pointed out to you in your thread about this.

 

[Greedo]

Yes, that was pointed out to you in your thread about this.

He did not actually say the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings were somehow fake, did he?


Anders, with all your amazing theories, please, how was it faked?

 

[Sam.I.Am]

He did not actually say the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings were somehow fake, did he?

From what I can tell he thinks that nuclear weapons and reactors are hoaxes.

 

[Mashuna]

From what I can tell he thinks that nuclear weapons and reactors are hoaxes.

Well, that's what he claims to think on the forums, anyway. I doubt it's a genuine position.

 

[Greedo]

From what I can tell he thinks that nuclear weapons and reactors are hoaxes.

That sure is an interesting position, Anders! Well, teh evil Shadow Powers™ sure waste a lot of money on hoaxes!

 

[Belz...]

As I have already said before, Einstein's theories are flawed. This result from CERN confirms it.

It's very easy to show that Einstein's special relativity is false. Two photons traveling in opposite directions have the relative velocity between them of two times the speed of light, not one time the speed of light as special relativity claims.

Wow. And it was so easy !! Those stupid scientists should just apply common sense to those problems rather than, for instance, actual measurements, eh ?

 

[Belz...]

It's basic stuff. Two photons traveling in opposite directions for one year will have a distance between them of two lightyears. This means that the relative velocity between them is two times the speed of light.

Anders, why do you keep using Newtonian physics ?

Time is not relative. Time unfolds in the now. Time is not a dimension.

Please show your math that shows all of known physics to be wrong and Anders Lindman to be right. I'm not going to take your word for it. You know why ? GPS sattelites work.

So you blindly trust those experiments? I don't.

No, instead you blindly deny those experiments. Why don't you check out the math, instead ?

 

[Belz...]

Are you sure GPS works the way the authorities say it works? Big Lies all the way buddy.

In other words you have an idea, and all evidence to the contrary is automatically an intentional lie. You are deluded.

 

[Belz...]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7604654&postcount=27

Your claim makes no sense. Why would the truth make more common sense than the lie ? That would make the lie harder to sell ! And also useless because people you claim have been lied to can easily verify the theory.

 

[Belz...]

Ok, sounds like a Nobel prize theory. Go on.

 

[Belz...]

So if I send two photons in opposite directions then each photon will move away from me at 1c and the relative velocity between them will also be 1c. Yeah, right. Maybe I should try travel in a rocket near the speed of light and speed up the entire universe? Fairy tales. Hoax theories. Big Lie con job.

No, you simply don't understand how this works. The universe is not sped up at all. It's all a matter of frames of reference. But that seems way too complex for you.

1. Einstein's special relativity cannot deal with having a photon as the reference frame, which means the theory cannot deal with reality.

2. Einstein's special relativity can deal with having a photon as a reference frame, and then the relative velocity between it and another photon traveling in the opposite direction is calculated to 1c, which means the theory is false since the relative velocity in reality is 2c.

3. Anders Lindman does not understand special relativity.

Science has found that particles can travel faster than the speed of light.

False. Observations were made that may indicate that particles can travel faster than c.

It's true that even mainstream physics professors are like morons compared to those who have the real knowledge hidden from the public.

Ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates ? Morons.

 

[Belz...]

I have heard conspiracy researchers talk about that (such as Alan Watt if I remember correctly). And it does make sense. By hiding the real knowledge from the public they (the shadow powers) can keep and expand their own power.

And how did these people find out ? And aside from "making sense", what evidence do they have ?

Do you believe it's impossible that those scientific results could have been faked?

Do you believe it's impossible that the universe is a giant egg laid by a cosmic chicken ?

I'm not 100% sure but I strongly suspect the whole Apollo moon program was a hoax

Why do you believe that everything is a lie ? Do you need a phantom enemy to fight with your ignorance ?

Because I said that Einstein's theories were wrong before CERN made this announcement. So it confirms my earlier statements.

Right, you believe it not because of the evidence, but because it agrees with you.

 

[dasmiller]

Are you sure GPS works the way the authorities say it works? Big Lies all the way buddy.

I am sure that GPS works the way the authorities say it works.

Who do you think is telling these 'Big Lies?' The engineers and scientists who've worked on GPS over the years may be faceless drones to you but many are friends and coworkers to me. There are rather a lot of them, really, and as a group they're no more homogeneous than any other large group. I can't imagine how you'd get them all (including me) to lie about something like relativity.

And why would anyone lie about relativistic corrections for GPS?

 

[Belz...]

And time is definitely NOT a dimension.

Is there any reason for anybody to believe that this is true, aside from your personal wish ?