Docker's OKC Bombing Conspiracy Thread

Dazed said:
Yes, even the one you quoted sounds like it to me.
"The bomb squad reports that there is no second bomb. The suspected bombs were simulators used in training."

I took this to mean, simulators the bomb squad used in training, implying they were running a training excercise during the actual event, hence my obnoxious comments.
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I guess I can see why you read it that way. The word "suspected" just jumps out at me, though.
 
Drew said:
Again...The people here don't seem to grasp to purpose of my posts.

Just as they didn't at the other forum.
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The surly attitude and unconstructive criticism combined with standard conspirator nonsense might be contributing to that.
 
Uh oh, Gravy hasn't posted here yet.

Must be ducking out of the ever so smart Docker's irrefutable arguments! ;)
 
Belz... said:
Skeptics may not be as gullible as the average jury, though.



Everything he said has no value BECAUSE he called you a nutter ?



Well, are news reports often wrong in the heat of the moment, or not ?
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Jury selection can mean the difference between guilty and not guilty.

He (the nutter guy) has the same credibility as whatever defines a "nutter".

Just because someone posts something in a forum does not make it so.
 
Drew said:
Again, calling me a nutter proves you have no credibility.

Everything you post before and after that has absolutely no value.
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That is practically a textbook example of argumentum ad hominem. Whether or not a derogatory commented was directed at you has no bearing on the merit of other evidence presented in a given post. Using it as such is dodging the issue.
 
Little late to the party, but essentially Benton Partin (BG, USAF, Ret.) did his entire research by looking at photographs of the Murrah Building. However, he has no background whatsoever in structural engineering, structural mechanics, progressive collapse, or building failure. Consequently, his argument that it was impossible for certain columns to fail under blast was irrelevant given that the columns failed in the structural progressive collapse following the ONE column failure associated with the blast, column G20, closest to the explosion and failing through brisance. Also, his association with "blast research" ended in the 1970's - it would be interesting to see whether his similar calculations for St. Mary Axe and Bishopsgate prove that those also could not have failed in the blast...Interestingly, he also claimed that explosives were used at Waco - despite no evidence in that direction...
 
Augustine said:
Little late to the party, but essentially Benton Partin (BG, USAF, Ret.) did his entire research by looking at photographs of the Murrah Building. However, he has no background whatsoever in structural engineering, structural mechanics, progressive collapse, or building failure. Consequently, his argument that it was impossible for certain columns to fail under blast was irrelevant given that the columns failed in the structural progressive collapse following the ONE column failure associated with the blast, column G20, closest to the explosion and failing through brisance. Also, his association with "blast research" ended in the 1970's - it would be interesting to see whether his similar calculations for St. Mary Axe and Bishopsgate prove that those also could not have failed in the blast...Interestingly, he also claimed that explosives were used at Waco - despite no evidence in that direction...
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Partin was also assuming that most of the damage to the building was a direct result of the blast. It wasn't. The progressive collapse caused most of the visible damage and killed most of the peopls.
 
Drew said:
The same brush is used here though.

Someone posted something about nuclear bombs or star wars rays and linked it to the whole truth movement. I have never heard of that "theory" before.

By the same token, I could link all that agree with the official story as racist because someone from their "group" made numerous racist comments.


I just got called a nutter because I "appear" to be going against the majority here.

The same thing happened when I went to a government involved conspiracy theory forum and went against their actions towards personal attacks.
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Well said Drew.
 
Docker said:
How so? I presented evidence and gravy (who unfortunately forced me to put him on ignore) couldnt refute it.
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You're hilarious. You lack the minerals to even front up when someone agrees to go into detail with your arguments.

Typically enough, Gravy didn't even need to go into details. Your "evidence", being someone else's report, has been shown to be irrelevant to the subject matter.

Your "expert" appears to have failed to analyse the event accurately, thus giving him the results he presents.

And it appears it's not the first time he has been wrong.

Personally, I hope Gravy continues with his argument anyway, because I was getting a little interested. Perhaps he'll proceed anyway.

-Gumboot
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
That does not answer he question.

Yes, or no; would you assume any devices, that appeared to be explosives, were training materials for the BATF?
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Is that the story? Training bombs LOL

Not to mention that no ATF got killed, witnesses heard multiple explosions, films showing john doe number 2 were never released.

Are you people that stupid?
 
Docker said:
How so? I presented evidence and gravy (who unfortunately forced me to put him on ignore) couldnt refute it.
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You presented two links. He and others (eventually, after trying to engage you in a discussion) presented several other links that refuted it.

You were so totally PWND!!!11!!1ONE!!!ELEVEN1!!!11!!
 
Docker said:
How so? I presented evidence and gravy (who unfortunately forced me to put him on ignore) couldnt refute it.
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Man, even when we do just post links for him, he won't read that material. I guarantee he hasn't looked at the provious OKC thread here either.

Docker, why are you doing this? What satisfaction does trolling bring you? What is missing in your life that this behavior supplies?
 
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