Did Obama really go to Harvard?

[JayUtah]

I cannot answer your question.

Pity. Why then should we accept that your ad hoc home-grown method for photogrammetric rectification of a human arm has any validity? What did you do to validate the method?

Next question: describe how inverse kinematics and projective geometry apply to the analysis of your still picture. Yet another question you can't Google an answer for. You either know it or you don't.

 

[JayUtah]

Ha! Looks like this question silenced y'all. He he.

No, we just refused to take your bait.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Pity. Why then should we accept that your ad hoc home-grown method for photogrammetric rectification of a human arm has any validity? What did you do to validate the method?

Next question: describe how inverse kinematics and projective geometry apply to the analysis of your still picture. Yet another question you can't Google an answer for. You either know it or you don't.

If you answer this question first: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8105302&postcount=60

 

[JayUtah]

Because if those two frames are taken with the same camera, then the video is faked...

Explain your rationale for this conclusion.

 

[steve s]

So all the people who went to Harvard with Obama, all of his professors, and all of the adminstrative staff are lying? Or were they all photoshopped in too?

Not to mention the fact that Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review. I suppose they let anyone do that.

Steve S

 

[Anders Lindman]

No, we just refused to take your bait.

You are afraid of exposing the video as fake?

 

[JayUtah]

If you answer this question...

Translation: I don't know that answer either.

 

[Kid Eager]

Here is the full picture: http://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/6858157

Can you see anyone else with a too low arm or something like that?

No, nothing like that.

More like a tortoise dancing a pavane whilst eating a meringue, but I too might be hallucinating.

 

[JayUtah]

You are afraid of exposing the video as fake?

No, your claim as stated is a non sequitur. We can reject it right now on that basis, or we can be charitable and give you the opportunity to try to salvage it.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Explain your rationale for this conclusion.

Check out the cut after around 0:23. Either it's the fastest camera movement in history, lol, or the sequence from around 0:24 of the professor is taken with another camera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3qShugQ9I

And then keep watching the sequence of the professor how the camera is panned back to Obama from the same camera position as the sequence before 0:24!

 

[abaddon]

No, but I think I can spot someone in this thread with a too high paranoia or something like that.

Are you seriously suggesting that Obama didn't go to Harvard and that everyone at Harvard is in on the conspiracy including everyone else in that photo?

Do you ever tire of your perverse nonsense?

All of you. Stop and think for a moment.

I can clearly see from the quotes that you are feeding the troll.

Please stop.

Use the ignore feature and give the troll what he hates most.

 

[Sceptic-PK]

I have yet to find a conspiracy theory that is too stupid for Anders Lindman to believe.

 

[sts60]

All of you. Stop and think for a moment.

I can clearly see from the quotes that you are feeding the troll.

Please stop.

Use the ignore feature and give the troll what he hates most.

+1. AL is a boring, lazy, dishonest troll. He created a thread becuase the grown-ups stopped giving him attention on the birther thread. Don't feed the troll; don't indulge the liar.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I have yet to find a conspiracy theory that is too stupid for Anders Lindman to pretend to believe.

Fixed.

It must tickle Anders to see a number of us pleading with the rest of you to ignore the obvious troll and be repeatedly ignored. It's like all those truther claims about why Silverstein admitted to complicity in the destruction of WTC7—because he could and there's nothing anyone could do about it.

 

[Slayhamlet]

Check out the cut after around 0:23. Either it's the fastest camera movement in history, lol, or the sequence from around 0:24 of the professor is taken with another camera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3qShugQ9I

And then keep watching the sequence of the professor how the camera is panned back to Obama from the same camera position as the sequence before 0:24!

It's the same camera. There's a gap in the film, as one can easily tell from the nonsensical audio.

And I remember him sauntering up to the front and not giving us a lecture, but engaging us in a conversation, and speaking the truth, and telling us that he... [gap] ...to learn at this place, that I've carried with me ever since. Now how did this one man do all this? [etc.]

 

[BazBear]

Only the people who worked at Harvard at that time. And the students at that time who would have known about Obama. Here is a video that supposedly is genuine showing Obama at Harvard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3qShugQ9I

I think the video is fake! And that the sloppy PDF of Obama's birth certificate is done so on purpose as a conspiracy bait to distract people. The really hardcore fakery is this video. Then of course is the question, why the image of Obama at Harvard is such a poor fakery. Could it be a double conspiracy bait? lol. That there is something else about Obama other than the birth certificate or the Harvard studies they are trying to hide.

Could that video really have been faked? Yes, with today's computer graphics I guess. It would require fairly professional editing tools but it could be done no doubt. Here is a more obvious fakery with computer generated cars but fairly good too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnWC0tFXtcw

I can't figure out if 1) you're just a chain yanking troll who doesn't really believe the nonsense you post, 2) you're truly as deluded and obstinate as your posts make you appear, or 3) some combination of 1 and 2.

 

[IdiotWhacker]

This image looks photoshopped with Obama's supposed right arm at a too low position: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/01/28/us/28obama.xlarge1.jpg

From: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/us/politics/28obama.html?_r=1

Here is evidence that looks more convincing but maybe also this has been faked: http://www.monster-island.net/2011/04/no-trump-he-really-did-go-to-harvard.html

If this is doctored what is the original picture do you have proof or is it just speculation?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

It's not difficult to get an actor to imitate Obama's body language. And the younger face of Obama they could have gotten from a photo. And his voice may be his voice today! With slight audio tweaking to make it sound younger.

Amazing. This is like talking to Max from an episode of Get Smart.

A motion capture device captures motion. Your suggestion that *they* obtained a moving image of Obama's face from a still photo suggests you haven't got a strong grip on image manipulation.

You also suggest *they* could have used one actor to play Obama's body. How would this account for the 50 or so students surrounding an unknown actor thinking it was Obama including the cameraman? Don't you mean 50 actors?

I suggest you start with basic photo interpretation and film special effects books, starting from the war and work your way up to modern technology. At the moment you are lifting technology plot lines from the popular fictional novel "Rising Sun".

 

[JayUtah]

Check out the cut after around 0:23. Either it's the fastest camera movement in history...

Wow. You don't even realize that you're watching an edited sequence. Massive, total failure.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Hey! Isn't it you who claim to be an expert on everything from rocket science to vaccine efficacy? lol. I think you're bluffing. Big time.

Unless you supply quotes from other threads where he claims a proffesional status or specific expertise in those fields I will assume the answer to be "no".