Did Obama really go to Harvard?

Anders Lindman said:
Hey! Isn't it you who claim to be an expert on everything from rocket science to vaccine efficacy? lol. I think you're bluffing. Big time.
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No, you are the one who dabbles in everything without any sort of qualification or education. Unlike for you, there are plenty of people here who know my credentials and qualifications to be genuine, especially on this point.

As usual, you can't deal with anyone who has actual expertise without resorting to calling them liars. I find that tremendously ironic.

I studied forensic engineering at the University of Michigan. Photogrammetry and photographic analysis is part of that curriculum.

Now answer my question or admit you can't.
 
JohnG said:
No, but I think I can spot someone in this thread with a too high paranoia or something like that.

Are you seriously suggesting that Obama didn't go to Harvard and that everyone at Harvard is in on the conspiracy including everyone else in that photo?

Do you ever tire of your perverse nonsense?
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Only the people who worked at Harvard at that time. And the students at that time who would have known about Obama. Here is a video that supposedly is genuine showing Obama at Harvard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3qShugQ9I

I think the video is fake! And that the sloppy PDF of Obama's birth certificate is done so on purpose as a conspiracy bait to distract people. The really hardcore fakery is this video. Then of course is the question, why the image of Obama at Harvard is such a poor fakery. Could it be a double conspiracy bait? lol. That there is something else about Obama other than the birth certificate or the Harvard studies they are trying to hide.

Could that video really have been faked? Yes, with today's computer graphics I guess. It would require fairly professional editing tools but it could be done no doubt. Here is a more obvious fakery with computer generated cars but fairly good too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnWC0tFXtcw
 
Anders Lindman said:
Could that video really have been faked? Yes, with today's computer graphics I guess. It would require fairly professional editing tools but it could be done no doubt.
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"Yes ... I guess." "...no doubt."

Spoken like a true amateur. I asked you whether you had made any attempt yourself to create convincing fakes. You didn't answer, which means you would have had to answer in a way disfavorable to you. That means you haven't.

Your uninformed, inexperienced opinion is simply irrelevant on this point.
 
Here is an example of how they can mix computer graphics and reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXFR7PE1s-0

Notice how the truck is painted blue so that they can render any type of paint digitally on it later on. Similarly, in the Harvard video, some guy could have been pained blue in the face and then a picture of a younger Obama digitally rendered on the blue surface.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Here is an example...
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Translation: I know how to do a search on YouTube.

My professional credits include Apollo 13, several Pixar shorts, and (sigh) The Core, through the subcontractor eFilms. I taught computer graphics at the school where most of the computer graphics people in the United States got their start. In fact, in the Pixar "early beginnings" video, you can see my office.

If you want to PM me your contact details, I'll let you talk to the people I worked with there. You may also confirm with John Hunt, producer of Mythbusters on which I served as an expert consultant.

...some guy could have been pained blue in the face and then a picture of a younger Obama digitally rendered on the blue surface.
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And why would this result in an allegedly malformed arm and elbow? Why wouldn't you need to manipulate just the face?

You'd have figured this out if you had answered my questions. But instead you found it lazier to call me a liar.

Now I'll ask my question again. In the photogrammetric literature, where may I find a discussion of using convenience computer-generated figures as proportion references? The question is relevant because it discusses the validity of your proposed standard of proof.

Now answer it, or admit you can't.
 
Hokulele said:
Because, of course, the Harvard University Library digital image collection is the only relevant source of data.

:rolleyes:
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Ah, HA. The Harvard University Library digital image collection does not contain an image of Obama's birth certificate.

[Ladewig nods knowingly]

All the pieces are falling in place; soon the entire tapestry will fall apart.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
No, no. There I was talking about this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3qShugQ9I

I suspect it's a fake video. And that the face of a younger Obama was digitally rendered on another person's face.
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The reasons actors wear motion capture suits is to allow their body movements and body language match their spoken lines when converted to animation. In this video, the young Barak Obama is using the same body language he does today as president. You missed this and claim only his head was added.

Please explain your theory in more detail

For example, from where did they capture the intial imagery of Pres. Obama's head to add this video? Are you saying it is 100% computer generated?
 
Here is a trick question :D: Are these two frames taken with the same camera?

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From: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz3qShugQ9I
 
Matthew Ellard said:
The reasons actors wear motion capture suits is to allow their body movements and body language match their spoken lines when converted to animation. In this video, the young Barak Obama is using the same body language he does today as president. You missed this and claim only his head was added.

Please explain your theory in more detail

For example, from where did they capture the intial imagery of Pres. Obama's head to add this video? Are you saying it is 100% computer generated?
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It's not difficult to get an actor to imitate Obama's body language. And the younger face of Obama they could have gotten from a photo. And his voice may be his voice today! With slight audio tweaking to make it sound younger.
 
Anders Lindman said:
It's not difficult to get an actor to imitate Obama's body language.
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What are your credentials and/or experience in film acting or directing? On what basis should I or anyone else trust you that you know anything is "easy" in that realm?

And the younger face of Obama they could have gotten from a photo.
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Why do you think a still photo would be suitable?

And his voice may be his voice today! With slight audio tweaking to make it sound younger.
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What are your credentials and experience in audio editing or synthesis?
 
JayUtah said:
Distraction. You haven't answer my questions yet. Why not?
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No it's not! Because if those two frames are taken with the same camera, then the video is faked, and if not, then two people stood at the same spot with the same type of camera filming Obama, which I guess would be theoretically possible but probably highly unlikely in reality.
 
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