Derren Brown Show

[DRturner]

hi

Derren Brown's show is obviously dressed up for television, but I doubt he uses camera tricks and stooges as much as some have suggested. And sometimes, his "explanations" are part of the misdirection. I have a video of a young DB doing a lecture where he really shows off some impressive mentalism on a tiny stage. He does a routine called Reminiscence that is absolutely amazing whether you know the method or not.
It's not like that video proves he doesn't "cheat," I'm just saying he's good enough to not have to.

i agree 100% and the above effect is courtesy of jermay..it employs a technique known as 'dual reality' or 'loose patter', also the pick up artist effect with the 3 'beautiful' women please use use your imagination to how this can be accomplished as if you think logically the effect is one of the most simple any mentalist can achieve.. the paying with paper all you have to do is watch the start of his shows with the people in the phone boxes or the trick or treat episode with the pianist to figure just how easily a cue can be employed (wrap it up with some clever patter that suggests he is using linguistics to us the viewer and you have the makings of a miracle) watch him flips the coin into the bowl to get all the heads (it takes hours of multiple takes) (isnt this a way of admiting to us he has not only the time but the resources to film multiple participants) i guess you would call that a possibility
based effect x

 

[magicflute]

"TV" trickery tends to ruin magic in my opinion, because people sometimes ask that you do tricks that are a "TV" trick and if you can't do them, then they come away thinking you are not as good as magician "X" For example personal levitation tricks, which even if you do them well are not as impressible live as when they are shown on TV. People tell me "Blaine does it so much better!" and yet we know that is not really so. Oh Well!

 

[Bob Klase]

"TV" trickery tends to ruin magic in my opinion, because people sometimes ask that you do tricks that are a "TV" trick and if you can't do them, then they come away thinking you are not as good as magician "X"!

I agree that "TV" trickery is not good, but that reason doesn't really hold. Do you go around everywhere carrying every prop needed to do every trick people might have seen on TV? If not then what happens when people ask you to do a trick that was on TV (but not a "TV" trick) and you can't do it and why is that any different that being unable to do a "TV" trick they saw on TV?