keyfeatures and punshhh,
Fortunately you do not afraid to get out of the "cave" in order to get things "under the sunlight".
What about you PiedPiper ( http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8088798&postcount=634 )?
Me? Oh, I'm not afraid to radically change my thinking pattern in order to grasp a new concept. But I have to be given sufficient reason to do so. So far I haven't seen one concrete, easy to understand (for non mathematicians), readily applicable advantage of "getting" your concepts. If it doesn't do anything for me, I really don't see the need to put forth any effort.
The argument "you can't understand why it's worth it to do this until you do this" really doesn't work with me, I'm afraid. I'm a highly educated intellectual person - convince me with arguments that aren't wrapped up in convoluted mathematical language. Or don't, that's up to you. I kinda thought that was the point of this entire thread though. It's posted under religion and philosophy, so I thought I would come here to be swayed in one direction or the other by convincing arguments that would appeal to my need to better myself. Instead all I'm seeing are hopelessly obtuse statements followed by belittling comments along the lines of "since you don't understand, you can't 'get' it".
It's extraordinary. In every other subject that I've learned, it's been the teachers responsibility to make sure their student understands (providing the student comes there with an open mind, a willingness to learn, and a devotion to the field of study). In this thread, I'm thrown undecipherable jargon followed by insulting insinuations that I don't "get it", aka, it's my fault.
Frustrating.