Debunking Popular Mechanics

[ConspiRaider]

Here Lisa, special Star Trek just for you.

Terrific! Thanks much!

(And don't tell Lisa that I'm a trekker (TOS only) and have all 80 episodes on DVD and was reading the James Blish adaptations as fast as he could publish them.)

 

[njslim]

The editors flat-out lie when they say that WTC7 was massively damaged when the damage was only minimal, especially in contrast to WTCs 3, 4, 5, and 6.


WTC 3 (Mariott Hotel) not damaged??? WTF? Considering that WTC 3 was
crushed first by the South Tower (WTC 2) which split the building in half
30 minutes what was left was flattened by the North Tower (WTC 1)
A relative of a member of my fire department died in WTC 3 (along with about
40 other FDNY members) Michael Quilty who was in command of Ladder 11
He and his entire crew were killed in the collapse. Such ignorant remarks
really anger me.

Run along troll!!!

 

[Loss Leader]

Here Lisa, special Star Trek just for you.

Great video. I think I caught most of the clips from The Trouble With Tribbles and I, Mudd. Also featured: Mirror, Mirror; Miri; The Naked Time; The Menagerie; The Squire of Gothos; The Return of the Archons; Operation: Annihilate!; Journey to Babel; and either Bread and Circuses or Plato's Stepchildren.

 

[ConspiRaider]

Great video. I think I caught most of the clips from The Trouble With Tribbles and I, Mudd. Also featured: Mirror, Mirror; Miri; The Naked Time; The Menagerie; The Squire of Gothos; The Return of the Archons; Operation: Annihilate!; Journey to Babel; and either Bread and Circuses or Plato's Stepchildren.

Plato's Stepchildren. Also I picked up Shore Leave and The Paradise Syndrome and Wolf In The Fold and Day Of The Dove and Devil In The Dark and By Any Other Name and The Conscience Of The King and The Way To Eden and Whom Gods Destroy and Arena and Balance Of Terror and A Piece Of The Action.

 

[Brainache]

So, Popular Mechanics, are those the guys who fix your car for the same price as they quote and don't leave grease stains on the upholstery?

 

[LashL]

This thread is another example of what I just LOVE about this place. By that I mean that no matter when some fly by night wannabe twoofer comes along and posts his/her nonsense, by the time some of us even see a particular thread, in light of time zones, work constraints, etc., it's been well and truly and thoroughly debunked. And those of us who missed the twoofer nonsense in the first place get to just enjoy reading all of the great work you've done.

*sigh* I love this place!

 

[kookbreaker]

Once again, a troother armed with only their arrogance, their inflated sense of worth, and a host of unfounded assertions comes smashing flat into the juggernaut of debunking of JREF.

Seriously, its like attacking a Tank with a handful of grapes.

 

[kookbreaker]

Great video. I think I caught most of the clips from The Trouble With Tribbles and I, Mudd. Also featured: Mirror, Mirror; Miri; The Naked Time; The Menagerie; The Squire of Gothos; The Return of the Archons; Operation: Annihilate!; Journey to Babel; and either Bread and Circuses or Plato's Stepchildren.

<Homer simpson>

NNNNEEEEERRrrrrrrrdd!!!

</Homer>

 

[CurtC]

That's just great, folks - we had a plaything all lined up, and you all had to go and scare him off with all your fancy demands for evidence and critical thinking.

It's not really even a part of the book, it's the forward . . . to the hardcover edition.

Well, it's the foreword, with an e in the middle and two o's.

 

[ConspiRaider]

So, Popular Mechanics, are those the guys who fix your car for the same price as they quote and don't leave grease stains on the upholstery?

Yes. Once when I turned my back, they placed a flower pot of thermite on the hood and tried to burn the engine, just for amusement. I reported them to the head mechanic, that's how cross I was with them.

I once came back for my car from these decidedly UNpopular mechanics and they burned the paint off of only HALF the car! They were these really short mechanics, almost like - er - Elves. Anyway I complained and they gave the interior a thorough vacuuming and debunking.

 

[SezMe]

So, Popular Mechanics, are those the guys who fix your car for the same price as they quote and don't leave grease stains on the upholstery?

I'm trying to figure out why your car mechanic is on your couch. Is, by any chance, your wife home during the day?

 

[babazaroni]

In another non-911 forum, the CT'ers howl with ROFLMAO's when the Popular Mechanics debunking is mentioned.

Wonder how these guys would react if Scientific American had done the debunking?

 

[ConspiRaider]

In another non-911 forum, the CT'ers howl with ROFLMAO's when the Popular Mechanics debunking is mentioned.

Wonder how these guys would react if Scientific American had done the debunking?

Zero difference. These adolescent-brained guys are exactly like creationists. They'll greedily lap up the end results of science and technology as long as none of their precious beliefs are threatened by same. Once that happens? HERESY! DERISION! SHILLS!

 

[CptColumbo]

I enjoy when they try to debunk the article (now book) by claiming that the actions of William Randolph Hearst (dead for over 50 years) over 100 years ago, somehow has a bearing and influence on the magazine today.

 

[Minadin]

Well, it's the foreword, with an e in the middle and two o's.

Have it your way. As a skeptic, I would rather be corrected than be wrong. I'll do my best to use the correct spelling in the furure.

 

[~enigma~]

most all the concrete was pulverized into a very fine dust, coating all of Lower Manhattan in a nuclear winter.

Do you know what a nuclear winter is? A dust cloud is not a nuclear winter nor is it remotely similar to a nuclear winter. What you did by using the term, intentionally or unintentionally (I say it was intentional), is attempt to instill a fear reaction into readers and hope that this would cause them to flock to your beliefs. I am ready to play Penn Jillete on you but the forum will not tolerate it so instead I will just say I will never consider anything you write nor should any rational human.

 

[Arus808]

what he posted here , is word for word his posted review at amazon.com.

again, its not a review in any sense of the word, since its obvious he read only the first 20 pages.

 

[~enigma~]

what he posted here , is word for word his posted review at amazon.com.

again, its not a review in any sense of the word, since its obvious he read only the first 20 pages.

Regardless what it is or what he read. He is an (PLEASE Lisa and Darat...let me go Penn & Teller on this guy) and no rational human should read his trash. Just not the ease which one could fit his "review" into the P&T episode where Eric Hufschmid appeared. Nuclear winter...really weak. Shows the total lack of respect HE has for the people that do read his review. What does he expect, everybody to throw out their brains and believe his stupid nonsense?

 

[MortFurd]

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As far as the book itself is concerned, the only instances in which it does correctly expose erroneous 9/11 Truth arguments are when the original arguments were "straw men." In this instance, a "straw man" is when a true conclusion (9/11 was an inside job) is supported by bogus or unsubstantiated evidence. Once the particular erroneous argument is debunked, some will conclude that ALL arguments in the Truth Movement have been debunked, or can be debunked just as easily. In other words, the "straw man" ends up smearing the whole movement in the minds of many Truth Seekers. The most classic example is the "pod theory," which asserts that a missile pod was attached to the underbelly of the plane the hit the second tower, and that based on frame-by-frame analysis of the impact, a "flash" can be seen a millisecond before contact. This argument was popularized in the first major 9/11 conspiracy video "In Plane Site," a film which was a breakthrough in 2004 but is now considered old hat, especially as portions of it have been discredited.

I'll leave the more major debunking to the folks here who more used to dealing with the irrationalities of the CT mindset.

The bolded section is discredited for a simple, clear reason. American television video runs at 30 frames per second. A single frame is therefore 33.33 milliseconds long, making it impossible for timing to be determined down to the millisecond.

Another correction:
A "Strawman" argument would be when you opponent presents an incorrect picture of your argument, and then demolishes it instead of countering your real argument.

Learn about technology before using it, and learn the meanings of the terms you use before you embarass yourself. It does NOT help your arguments when you show yourself to be unknowledgeable about the subject.

ETA:
Dang! I ddin't notice that the thread was already three pages long. Sorry for the late post.

 

[Brainache]

I'm trying to figure out why your car mechanic is on your couch. Is, by any chance, your wife home during the day?

I was of course referring to the seat upholstery in the car.

If I had a wife she would be out working to keep me in the style to which I plan to become accustomed.


So is the kameelyun coming back? I was so looking forward to finding out all about demolitions, missiles, covert ops, shoot down orders, false flag ops, patsies and Rudy Guliani's secret bunker. I can never get enough of all that stuff.