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Dave Herman retired disc jockey arrested

Herman was a famous disc jockey for decades at the now-legendary New York rock station WNEW-FM. Today, he still has legions of fans in the New Jersey and New York region, many of whom remember him ruling the rock airwaves during the 1970s and after with his calm, smooth demeanor on the “Dave Herman Rock and Roll Morning Show,”
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He has many fans in the New York area and I'm one of them. "Good just barely morning." That was Dave.

Herman, who authorities say lives in both Airmont, N.Y., and St. Croix, was snared in a computer investigation headed by an officer from the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office who chatted with him online, saying she was a 36-year-old single mother from Bergen County with a young daughter named “Lexi,” authorities have said. “Lexi” was the officer’s creation.
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He's seventy-seven years old. What was the point? I think he needs to see a doctor.
 
newyorkguy said:
He's seventy-seven years old. What was the point? I think he needs to see a doctor.
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You know... It's hard to conceive someone would actually do what he did. I wonder if it indicates early stages of dementia.... The idea that I'll reach an age and my mind and judgement are robbed from me is scary.
 
The idea that the police go in these chatrooms and orchestrate something like this with a 77-year-old man, then arrest him, is troubling.

Is there any evidence he ever had sex with a child? Any evidence he possessed child porn? Was he trying to make similar arrangements with other chatters? If the answer to those questions is no than I think he should receive some compassion from the court and be sentenced to no more than probation.
 
newyorkguy said:
The idea that the police go in these chatrooms and orchestrate something like this with a 77-year-old man, then arrest him, is troubling.

Is there any evidence he ever had sex with a child? Any evidence he possessed child porn? Was he trying to make similar arrangements with other chatters? If the answer to those questions is no than I think he should receive some compassion from the court and be sentenced to no more than probation.
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I think he should get probation. What I read he said was awful.... He's a pretty sick dude..... That's an awful lot of money to spend on a guy that most likely will be dead in a few years.... Even house arrest or something... My guess is that the stress of this event will cause his health to fail hard in the next few years.
 
What's the story here? Was a police officer pretending to be the mother of a child who was agreeing to let a 77-year old man take her 7-year old daughter off to the Virgin Islands for sex?

Was there much guffawing over the choice of location?

Anyway, 77 years old is just gross. It wouldn't be too bad if the guy was like 27, but I suppose they wanted the whole 777 thing.
 
newyorkguy said:
The idea that the police go in these chatrooms and orchestrate something like this with a 77-year-old man, then arrest him, is troubling.

Is there any evidence he ever had sex with a child? Any evidence he possessed child porn? Was he trying to make similar arrangements with other chatters? If the answer to those questions is no than I think he should receive some compassion from the court and be sentenced to no more than probation.
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Not to me it isn't.

Funny how with all my time on the 'web I think the closest I even got to communicating with a kid was a musician's board where I had posted about seeing The Who early on and seeing them the night at the Cow Palace when Moonie passed out and they got a drummer out of the audience.

A person PM'd me and wanted to know if the story was true, we PM'd back and forth and I had said something about the time period and the person I was PMing with said they weren't born until 1978...I wished the kid well and terminated conversation.

If a full grown adult in this day and age is stupid enough to use the 'net as a meeting place for kiddie sex, **** 'em. He or they get no slack from me.

And if anybody wants to nail me for being a Who fan and Townsend's run in, just like I told someone when that went down and I was asked, If I had Townsend or any one else I admire from a musician's viewpoint in my jurisdiction and any type of criminal complaint came up I wouldn't treat him or they any different than any other arrestee.

Having got a pretty bad case of wet eye watching Tower of Power the first night Rick Stevens sang with them after his release from prison:

http://www.sfgate.com/music/article/Singer-Rick-Stevens-embraces-2nd-chance-4229673.php

I've had to re-examine my feelings about murderers in general, but that's another story.

ETA - the night with Tower described above:

 
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They have rules about who has to initiate these things to become criminal communication, or so I have been lead to believe. So they cannot cross over to entrapment. And you bet any defense attorney is going to review all the transcripts.
 
The whole thing is entrapment. There WAS no six-year-old girl. The police officer in the chat room made that up.

I read of a similar case in my area. A guy was chatting with an police officer he thought was a fifteen-year-old girl. They made arrangements to go to a motel. When they guy showed up he was arrested.

His lawyer wanted to fight it. His lawyer wanted to argue, "It's the Internet." What reasonable expectation did he have to believe the person he was chatting with really was fifteen years old? It's the Internet. Everybody lies about who they are.

The lawyer said his client, who had never been arrested before, was too traumatized by the publicity the case got to want to prolong it. He was offered a plea deal and he took it. The lawyer said he felt these chat room stings raise a lot of questionable issues. That in some ways the state's conduct is more troubling than the individual's. He said he had represented several individuals arrested in these stings. The arrests always get a lot of publicity. None of the clients ever want to fight.

I agreed. It is troubling.
 
He showed up to rape a 15 year old girl. And, sorry, you do not take a plea deal that brands you a sex offender for life if you believe yourself to have a defensible case. No amount of attention at a trial where you are exonerated is as bad as a lifetime as a pariah.
 
BenBurch said:
They have rules about who has to initiate these things to become criminal communication, or so I have been lead to believe. So they cannot cross over to entrapment. And you bet any defense attorney is going to review all the transcripts.
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Yeah, I agree with this. If the police have fake sites up designed to catch prowlers on the net then it makes sense.

If, on the other hand, they goad people into agreeing to things they never otherwise would, then it seems to be creating a problem that didn't exist and would be - in my completely personal and not at all legal opinion - entrapment.

For example, I think that when those federal agents pestered the Ruby Ridge guy into sawing off a shotgun, that seemed like entrapment to me. Same as when some police officers pestered a guy to quit his work and become a jihadist, that seemed like entrapment too. Certainly a waste of police resources.
 
I'm not so much concerned with whether it is entrapment or not. The guy is 77..... What ever piece of scum he was before or is now... He's a completely destroyed piece of scum.... If I was a tax payer... I don't think I would want 2 or 3 more million dollars going towards this guys up keep.
 
BStrong said:
A person PM'd me and wanted to know if the story was true, we PM'd back and forth and I had said something about the time period and the person I was PMing with said they weren't born until 1978...I wished the kid well and terminated conversation.
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1978? That would make him or her about 35 today as they were born a year after me. I don't think the Net was even around when I was a kid. Were you conducting this conversation on DARPA or something to be so concerned about being thought a kiddie-fiddler?
 
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1978? That would make him or her about 35 today as they were born a year after me. I don't think the Net was even around when I was a kid. Were you conducting this conversation on DARPA or something to be so concerned about being thought a kiddie-fiddler?
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I was having online conversations back in 1994 . . . and I don't think I was one of the first. That was back in the AOL and CompuServe days.
 
angrysoba said:
1978? That would make him or her about 35 today as they were born a year after me. I don't think the Net was even around when I was a kid. Were you conducting this conversation on DARPA or something to be so concerned about being thought a kiddie-fiddler?
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It's a tenet of his religion that he won't talk in chat with anyone that was born after Star Wars was made.
 
Do people looking for liaisons with minors use chat rooms to meet them? Are there people in chat rooms offering up minors for sexual purposes? Some how I don't think there are, but if I'm wrong, shouldn't the police be going after them?

Instead of undercover cops posing as pimps in chat rooms to arrest johns, shouldn't the undercover cops being posing as johns? To arrest the pimps?

I see these new articles time and again in the New York Metropolitan Area. It's always an undercover officer posing as a minor. They have even arrested other police officers.
 
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