Dan Wallace vs. Mark Roberts video

[Lucas]

Here's a conspiracy theory (take it with a grain of salt, I mean no disrespect to Dan's memory):

After this debate with Mark, realizing that he didn't have a clue about the NIST report, and thinking that he would think for himself instead of listening to Dylan, Dan decides to read the NIST report, or at least starts to. He discusses what he's reading with Dylan. "I told you not to read that ********, Dan! Stop it and forget about it, it's not important!"... But Dan keeps on reading and realizes that, maybe, just maybe, his father didn't die at the hands of the government...

Days later (or weeks, I don't know the timeline), Dan dies in his sleep, of yet unknown causes...

Hmmm.

 

[mailman]

He gets one thing right though, maybe for the first time ever ever.

"Regardless of what you think about Mark, he's good."

Is that an actual Dylan Avery quote or have you gone truther on him and taken his utterings completely out of context to the point where it bears absolutely no semblance to the original posting?

Regards

Mailman

 

[mailman]

Hmmmmmm, what a bunch of morons in the video...and whats with the chicken sounds at the end? Oh Dylan, the decider of what is mature debate!

Mailman

 

[beachnut]

The young lad Mark is talking to is the son of a fire fighter who died on 911. He made it his life to find out the truth for his father. He died last week. Mark is so very respectful of victims.

Why make a veiled statment; say what you mean. You missed the fact the poor young man was mislead my liars into a movement of lies.

The young man made a mistake and joined the fraud called 9/11 truth movement. The real disrespectful party is the truth movement for telling lies or being too dumb to know better.

Are you part of the fraud? The video was about truthers with no facts calling Mark a chicken because they are too lazy to read or gain the knowledge to understand 9/11. One of them died and maybe never knew his 9/11 movement was made of lies and fraud.

Mislead by others. Are you going to mislead others?

 

[mailman]

Gravy, have you ever thought about having your own security guards?

You never know when you will meet one of those 9/11 cult members who believes you are the true infidel and look to do something about you!

Mailman

 

[mrfreeze]

Here's a conspiracy theory (take it with a grain of salt, I mean no disrespect to Dan's memory):

After this debate with Mark, realizing that he didn't have a clue about the NIST report, and thinking that he would think for himself instead of listening to Dylan, Dan decides to read the NIST report, or at least starts to. He discusses what he's reading with Dylan. "I told you not to read that ********, Dan! Stop it and forget about it, it's not important!"... But Dan keeps on reading and realizes that, maybe, just maybe, his father didn't die at the hands of the government...

Days later (or weeks, I don't know the timeline), Dan dies in his sleep, of yet unknown causes...

Hmmm.

Even if you didn't mean it disrespectfully, it winds up looking that way man. I mean hell, a 23 year old kid is dead. Not much funny about that any way you try to slice it.

 

[LashL]

Mark was not disrespectful toward Dan at all.

The fact that Do-Over Dylan resorts to such baseless accusations while simultaneously hoping to benefit from the death of this unfortunate young man is, however, entirely in keeping with the disgusting lack of respect that Dylan Avery has shown to the victims of the events of 9/11 since he first involved himself with the events in 2005.

The "9/11 Deniers Speak" video and transcript provide ample evidence of the utter contempt and appalling disrespect for the victims that Dylan Avery, Jason Bermas, Korey Rowe, and other "Truth movement" adherents and sycophants exhibit. They scoff and laugh (literally) at the victims with wanton abandon, and think themselves heroes for doing so.

Dylan Avery, in my view, is now trying to divert attention from his own disgusting displays of disrespect toward the victims, and is still stinging over his humilation at Mark's hands in a taped debate, by dishonestly suggesting that Mark has been disrespectful of victims even though he knows that Mark has done no such thing.

This is just another example of the depths to which Dylan Avery and the Loose Change gang will sink, and just another example of the kind of despicable lies they will try to sell to the gullible.

It is disgusting but, unfortunately, not at all surprising, coming from the likes of Dylan Avery. The irony of "truth" seekers such as Dylan Avery and the Loose Change cult members being such consistent, deliberate liars would almost be funny if it were not so pathetic and if the subject matter was not so serious.

 

[OMGturt1es]

Dylan Avery has posted this video in his blog. Titled Dan vs. Mark.

http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/

Video here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1432875228398329746&hl=en


What is going on there? I can't watch videos at work. The description says that this is a segment from Luke Rudowski's upcoming film.

wow.

gravy, i'm not sure how you could manage to stay clam with these clowns, but it certainly is entertaining that you can manage to get them to admit that they have no idea what the official story is.

 

[Rich M]

Is it terrible to say that I couldn't listen to their yakking, squalking voices? I mean, I'm a little hungover this morning but wow that's some grating hectoring. I was a bit of a conspiracy theorist when I was a teenager and watching that video I had a horrible realisation what I sounded like to anyone who'd left puberty long behind.

Young people today, etc. Get off my lawn.

 

[eeyore1954]

The young lad Mark is talking to is the son of a fire fighter who died on 911. He made it his life to find out the truth for his father. He died last week. Mark is so very respectful of victims.

Come on he was very patient with Dan Wallace and the cameraman both of whom would never let him finish his explanation. He never raised his voice , never resorted to name calling and only finally continued walking away.
The only disrespect was shown by the cameraman and whoever did the clucking.

And yes you are entitled to an opinion that Judy Woods in a plant and people are entitled to disagree. She is so pathetic in her stories I doubt if the government would her. I would expect they would want someone more believable. But maybe not. I personally don't believe they are much more interested with the truth movement than you or I would be with a gnat flying around our head.

 

[Gravy]

Gravy, have you ever thought about having your own security guards?

There's no need, my friend:

He looks very hard though. Im guessing ex military, maybe ex special forces.

 

[eddyk]

Hahaha



They have the ability to make you so very angy and laugh so hard.

 

[CptColumbo]

In Aphelion's defense here, I think the only difference is intent. Since there is no way for us to objectively evaluate what's in their heads, none of us (including Aphelion) can tell the difference between a loon and a disinfo agent.

Except that, a disinfo agent would be employed by the big bad guys, so Aphelion could provide evidence that any of these people is being paid for the stupid stuff they say. Got that evidence, Aphelion?

I always thought that some "disinfo" could be performance art or an experiment to see how far you can take it.

 

[CptColumbo]

He looks very hard though. Im guessing ex military, maybe ex special forces.

Gravy=Rambo

Cool!


"Don't push it, or I'll give you a war you won't believe."

 

[CHF]

Hey Gravy,

Is there any way a debate can be set up between you and James Fetzer?

That is one I would absolutely love to see.

On a truther show he'd just try to shout you down so maybe another Hardfire battle is in order.

By the way, the girlfriend and I hope to return to NYC in, say, June some time. Would love to join you guys for another round. The usual debunkers still showing up at GZ?

Cheers

 

[JamesB]

There's no need, my friend:

This is true. I checked with some friends of mine at Ft. Bragg and found an old photo of Gravy.

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-loose-change-forum-idiocy.html

 

[kookbreaker]

There's no need, my friend:

They don't call us JREF Ninja fer nothin' ya know.

 

[Dragon]

This is true. I checked with some friends of mine at Ft. Bragg and found an old photo of Gravy.

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-loose-change-forum-idiocy.html

I think this is the real Gravy.

 

[Calcas]

This is true. I checked with some friends of mine at Ft. Bragg and found an old photo of Gravy.

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-loose-change-forum-idiocy.html

That's the true face of the CIA. Funny that the twoofers all think they look like some cloak and dagger guys. In reality, the field guys are more likely to look like this...

 

[ConspiRaider]

Gravy=Rambo

Cool!

"Don't push it, or I'll give you a war you won't believe."

Great lines for Gravy, good one, Lieutenant Columbo. Others for our esteemed Gravy:

"Look Mr. Wonderful - whatever your name is - now I don't like violence. But you don't drop that blade, you won't believe what happens next. Even while it's happening". (Coogan's Bluff)

"You don't think we're gonna let you get away with this, do ya? Smith, and Wesson, and me..." (Sudden Impact)

"I don't care about the bullets, the bombs or the blood. I don't need medals and I don't want money. What I do want is for you to stand there and with your Harvard mouth, show me some effing respect! YOU GOTTA ASK ME NICELY!!!" (A Few Good Men)