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Crop circle debunking help needed

23_Tauri said:
As interesting a dynamic as the woo war between the Fake Moon Landers and the Apollo 20 Secret Mission that Discovered an Alien Space Ship on the Far Side of the Moon brigade! :D

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0507/apollo20.html

How they square those to CT's I'll never know. :boggled:
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Or they found two powerful guys named Rockefeller and Gates, whom built a seed vault to replenish the trampled fields. Laurence Rockefeller also actually financed an investigative team to the crops. ....imthebestbravosierraever....
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Look at how differently species on Earth communicate. Case in point, canines greet each others by smelling each others' rears, and mark territory by urinating on rocks.
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Err, have you ever been to an Australian night club?
 
chuck4842 said:
Laurence Rockefeller also actually financed an investigative team to the crops. ....imthebestbravosierraever....
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And do you know exactly what they found out as a result of the 'investigation'?

I'll tell you:





































Just about sums it up. I suppose that's what happens if you give your money to creduloids in order to investigate something only a creduloid would buy in to.
 
HansMustermann said:
Well, no. Even being open minded at different ways of doing things, you can still have some basic expectations.

Like that such a species still must have a way of communicating fast enough. Whether it's by sounds, linking antennae and using smells, flashes of light, EM radiation, or really whatever. You expect them to be able to at least say "ok, I wanna make a big rocket. I can haz cash grant?" in real time, without having to drag everyone to some place with tall grass to trample in some Hello Kitty shape.

Really, there's a fine line between not expecting them to be exactly like humans, and pretending that any magical BS is as likely.
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But even though we humans can communicate quickly, we still draw paintings, build sculptures, make documentaries, and compose music. None of which is "real-time communication". The fact that some artist uses a spray can to paint symbols on a concrete wall doesn't mean that he is unable to communicate in any other way.

then we do not, as a matter of fact, know enough about them to say for certain that they'd have no reason to leave patterns on corn fields. It's probably a bad example, but the cargo cults of the Pacific didn't at all understand why the whites who were suddenly at their islands built antennae. A native coming across a cell phone tower would have no way to understand that it's used to transmit and receive cell phone signals. I suppose I'm rambling here, but you get my point, I hope.
 
Wolrab said:
Why didn't they just leave the flag Aldrin used?
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Whilst that would be a convincing piece of evidence of aliens, it would be an ambiguous message. Does it mean "Hello, wanted to let you know we're here"? "Stop leaving your crap lying around"? "We think someone dropped this"?
 
Safe-Keeper said:
But even though we humans can communicate quickly, we still draw paintings, build sculptures, make documentaries, and compose music. None of which is "real-time communication". The fact that some artist uses a spray can to paint symbols on a concrete wall doesn't mean that he is unable to communicate in any other way.

then we do not, as a matter of fact, know enough about them to say for certain that they'd have no reason to leave patterns on corn fields. It's probably a bad example, but the cargo cults of the Pacific didn't at all understand why the whites who were suddenly at their islands built antennae. A native coming across a cell phone tower would have no way to understand that it's used to transmit and receive cell phone signals. I suppose I'm rambling here, but you get my point, I hope.
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Right. So basically all the aliens that ever bothered coming this way were either artists expressing themselves by trampling wheat in patterns (you have to wonder why only that and not also, dunno, artists who'd sculpt something in ice or whatever) and alien hillbillies who were into pranks like mutilating cows and anal-raping people with dildos (or dildo-shaped "probes".) You have to wonder if there's some seedy space pub nearby or an insane asylum planet ;)
 
In the summer I shall be going on another crop circle visit; I've kept Olivier Morel's e-mail address to book a place with him. I shall have all my senses alert to receive transmission of any messages, I assure you and will report back immediately to JREF.
 
This one is a peach. A Norwegian film crew on location in Wiltshire with a circle watcher come across a fresh circle. Cue much deep breathing and feeling of the energy and auras n stuff.

Big reveal is at 2:30 ish, it's an advert for an upcoming series of the BBC show QI.



And a show clip about it:
 
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drewid said:
This one is a peach. A Norwegian film crew on location in Wiltshire with a circle watcher come across a fresh circle. Cue much deep breathing and feeling of the energy and auras n stuff.

Big reveal is at 2:30 ish, it's an advert for an upcoming series of the BBC show QI.

<broked link>

And a show clip about it:

<broked link>
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FTFY




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