Coulter on Canada

[clk]

Why does Ann Coutler get so much TV time??? Fox is so baised towards the right. Its not like Ann represents anyone or any organization. She so rediculous that she shoudnt be on TV. Shame on Fox.

Dude...Fox is the same company that broadcasted the "Moon Landing Hoax" program. They have no standards. That's why they are a mouthpiece for the Republicans

 

[AtheistArchon]

- You know, it just occurred to me, Bill O'Reilly should have picked someone like Ann to talk dirty to. The mind staggers at the implications.

 

[BPSCG]

God no! She looks like that guy from "The Nightmare Before Christmas".

Methinks thou dost protest too much. You'd love to have her tinkle your ivories, wouldn't you?

What are her credentials anyway?

If it really matters (do you ask what everyone's credentials are around here?), this is from her web site:

Coulter clerked for the Honorable Pasco Bowman II of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit and was an attorney in the Department of Justice Honors Program for outstanding law school graduates.

After practicing law in private practice in New York City, Coulter worked for the Senate Judiciary Committee, where she handled crime and immigration issues for Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan. From there, she became a litigator with the Center For Individual Rights in Washington, DC, a public interest law firm dedicated to the defense of individual rights with particular emphasis on freedom of speech, civil rights, and the free exercise of religion.

A Connecticut native, Coulter graduated with honors from Cornell University School of Arts & Sciences, and received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review.

And what have you done lately?

 

[varwoche]

God no! She looks like that guy from "The Nightmare Before Christmas".

Coulter = the anti viagra.

 

[AtheistArchon]

And what have you done lately?

- Me? I advocated the forceful conversion of all Muslims to Christianity not long ago. I told the media that liberals are terrorists. I've come forward supporting the idea that it's okay to rape the planet because god gave it to us to rape. I also opined that Timothy McVeigh should have chosen the New York Times building to bomb.

- Impressive, yes?

 

[BPSCG]

- Me? I advocated the forceful conversion of all Muslims to Christianity not long ago. I told the media that liberals are terrorists. I've come forward supporting the idea that it's okay to rape the planet because god gave it to us to rape. I also opined that Timothy McVeigh should have chosen the New York Times building to bomb.

- Impressive, yes?

So where's the problem?

 

[Thanz]

COULTER: There is also something called, when you're allowed to exist on the same continent of the United States of America, protecting you with a nuclear shield around you, you're polite and you support us when we've been attacked on our own soil. They [Canada] violated that protocol.

Say what? How the heck did Canada violate that protocol? We took in a ton of planes and people right after 9/11 (which Bush finally got around to saying thank you for) and went after Bin Laden in Afganistan right along with the US. We are still there. Not going into Iraq is no violation of anything.

What a twit.

 

[tedly]

quote from media matters.
I suppose it's always, I might add, the worst Americans who end up going there. The Tories after the Revolutionary War, the Vietnam draft dodgers after Vietnam. And now after this election, you have the blue-state people moving up there.
[...]
COULTER: There is also something called, when you're allowed to exist on the same continent of the United States of America, protecting you with a nuclear shield around you, you're polite and you support us when we've been attacked on our own soil. They [Canada] violated that protocol.
[...]
COULTER: We could have taken them [Canada] over so easily.

Well, Ok. A brief reply to Ms Coulter:

First quote.. we call them United Empire Loyalists, and they are sort of our DAR or Mayflower society. Now they look like most other Kanukistanis. And many of the 'draft dodgers' are now called professor. I bet you can't find a university campus in Canada that doesn't have two of them. The blue state Exodus isn't going to happen. The only emmigration will come from the rust belt, and it will be economic immigration.

Two.. I remember the briefings we used to get on NORAD, and the uncomfortable feeling I got thinking that bombs that were targeted at the US would be shot down over the 'Canadian Barrengrounds'.
And when you were attacked who were the first to come to your aid? Who landed all your inbound aircraft and lodged their passengers until they could fly home? Who sent fire fighters and first aid workers? Who is now backing your play in Afghanistan? And who told you, honestly and straight, as a friend, that attacking Iraq was an illegal mistake?

Three... You tried this once. The events are celebrated as a war of the plucky little colonies against the might of the Europeans. Your attacks though were aimed at Canada, and your 'mere matter of marching' to take over Lower Canada got you a bit of a bloody nose as our French stood with the Loyalists. (Is that why you Ms. Coulter hate the French? Because America's first military defeats were at the hands of French peasant farmers? Say it isn't so.) You've heard the songs about the 'Battle of New Orleans' but don't mention the other concurrent raid. I'll jog your memory. Why is the White House white.?

 

[BPSCG]

Three... You tried this once.

You forget the Fenian Invasions of 1866 and 1871!

 

[tedly]

You forget the Fenian Invasions of 1866 and 1871!

We call them the Fenian Raids, but they hardly count. Fighting the Irish only spoils them.
I used to play Rugby with two Irish brothers who didn't feel that a trip to the bar was complete without a fight, and if no-one else would oblige they'd do each other up.

 

[AtheistArchon]

So where's the problem?

- The problem is we're limited to only a certain number of possibilities regarding Ms. Coulter:

1. She's knowingly putting everyone on, spoofing the radical religious right, and fooling everyone completely in the process (far better than LandoverBaptist ever did). It's certainly not easy to satirize her; everything she says is way over the top already. But this elaborate con seems unlikely to me since it's gone on for so long with so many eager adherents. (Then again, she certainly is taking a lot of conservatives' money.)

2. She's sincere when she says stupid things and pre-enlightenment things. I tend to lean in this direction.

- What other choices are there? Usually, elaborate parodies sneak in certain jibes and jokes that tend to clue people in to the joke... Ann's stuff is consistently putrid. Further, she knows people are taking her to heart and parroting her nonsense. I don't see anything convincing that would lead me to believe she's putting us on.

 

[Ladewig]

We call them the Fenian Raids, but they hardly count. Fighting the Irish only spoils them.
I used to play Rugby with two Irish brothers who didn't feel that a trip to the bar was complete without a fight, and if no-one else would oblige they'd do each other up.

Whenever I read stories about Native Americans objecting to sports teams called the "Braves" or the "Indians," I wonder why no one has really complained about Notre Dame calling its team the "Fightin' Irish."

 

[Hutch]

Whenever I read stories about Native Americans objecting to sports teams called the "Braves" or the "Indians," I wonder why no one has really complained about Notre Dame calling its team the "Fightin' Irish."

Being half Irish, I think it is because most Irish (1) Don't take it all that seriously or (2) Believe there is a grain of truth in it.

Now if you nicknamed a team "Ugly, Potato Eating Micks", I think the Irish community might become a bit peeved.

You know, of course, that the Irish discovered Civilization...but then had several pints of Guiness and forgot where we put the #$@^%#&&^% thing!!

 

[TragicMonkey]

Now if you nicknamed a team "Ugly, Potato Eating Micks", I think the Irish community might become a bit peeved.

I dunno, I'm a quarter Irish, and I think it's funny.

There was a bit on Family Guy where they learned about their Irish heritage via animatronic scenes. Woman kneels in prayer, flops over and a baby pops out. Repeat. Repeat. I think my grandmother and her 11 siblings would have found that amusingly accurate.

 

[BPSCG]

- The problem is we're limited to only a certain number of possibilities regarding Ms. Coulter:

(...snip...)

- What other choices are there? Usually, elaborate parodies sneak in certain jibes and jokes that tend to clue people in to the joke... Ann's stuff is consistently putrid. Further, she knows people are taking her to heart and parroting her nonsense. I don't see anything convincing that would lead me to believe she's putting us on.

You don't? Really? So when writing of Dan Rather's interview with Bill Burkett (of forged Bush National Guard documents fame), and she says

According to USA Today, an interview with Burkett ended when he "suffered a violent seizure and collapsed in his chair" – an exit strategy Dan Rather has been eyeing hungrily all week...

you thought she was serious?

Or when writing of the Democratic convention

Here at the Spawn of Satan convention in Boston, conservatives are deploying a series of covert signals to identify one another, much like gay men do. My allies are the ones wearing crosses or American flags. The people sporting shirts emblazened with the "F-word" are my opponents. Also, as always, the pretty girls and cops are on my side, most of them barely able to conceal their eye-rolling.

you think she's not intentionally going over the top?

Maybe those of us on the right like her because she makes these joyously vitriolic remarks, and maybe we like her even more precisely because the libs fail to see any humor in them, and maybe we like her even more because the libs get so mouth-foaming enraged at even the mention of her name.

ETA: Read her piece on the Democratic convention. It's a hoot - especially the part about Dennis Kucinich passing the 7-Eleven test.

 

[Ladewig]

You don't? Really? So when writing of Dan Rather's interview with Bill Burkett (of forged Bush National Guard documents fame), and she says you thought she was serious?

Or when writing of the Democratic conventionyou think she's not intentionally going over the top?

Maybe those of us on the right like her because she makes these joyously vitriolic remarks, and maybe we like her even more precisely because the libs fail to see any humor in them, and maybe we like her even more because the libs get so mouth-foaming enraged at even the mention of her name.

Hee, hee, hee. Now that is funny writing.

So if it is all humourously over the top, then when shows like Good Morning, America, This Week, The Today Show introduce her as a conservative columnist rather than a satirist, they are just too slow to get the joke. And when Hardball and the O'Reilly Factor introduce her as a conservative columnist rather a satirist, they do so because they are in on the joke. But are all the bookstore in the U.S. too slow to get the joke or in on the joke when they place her books in the politics section rather than the humor section?


I'll stick to my theory: she is addicted to media coverage and will say anything to ensure that she will get camera time.

 

[Checkmite]

Wait a second...Coultier is pissed at Canada because all the "blue staters" that she doesn't consider real Americans anyway are leaving the U.S.? You'd think she would be happy.

 

[BPSCG]

Hee, hee, hee. Now that is funny writing.

So if it is all humourously over the top, then when shows like Good Morning, America, This Week, The Today Show introduce her as a conservative columnist rather than a satirist, they are just too slow to get the joke.

All humorously over the top? Who said that?

Sometimes her points come across with simple venom, undiluted with levity, such as her observation that (I'm paraphrasing here) even though the word "abortion" does not appear there, liberals find that the Constitution defends a woman's right to have one, while at the same time, those same liberals can behold the second amendment and conclude it does not defend a woman's right to carry a gun. They think it's better that a woman kill her unborn child than the rapist that put it inside her (end paraphrase).

Yes, she uses vitriolic humor, often for the apparent sheer glee of eviscerating her opponents. But she also is unsparing in exposing what she sees as harsh truths about her opponents' positions.

If Coulter were a 65-year-old guy in a rumpled suit, you'd call him a curmudgeon and compare him to H.L. Mencken.

As for being addicted to media coverage, how does that make her any different from Geraldine Ferarro, who I've seen at least three times on Fox news in the last month? Or anyone else paid to voice his or her opinion about politics, current events, and social issues?

 

[Ladewig]

All humorously over the top? Who said that?

If Coulter were a 65-year-old guy in a rumpled suit, you'd call him a curmudgeon and compare him to H.L. Mencken.

No, I wouldn't. I am unsure how many other people on either side of the fence would. The biggest difference is that Mencken was unpartisan in his skewering. He thought the entire general populace to be a bunch of boobs. He attacked elected officials on the right and the left.

As for being addicted to media coverage, how does that make her any different from Geraldine Ferarro, who I've seen at least three times on Fox news in the last month?

I don't know enough about Ferarro to say one way or the other, but I will put Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson in that category (although having an illegitimate child has tempered Jackson's scramble for the camera lights). I'd even say Bill Clinton is a "social" media user and it would not take much to turn him into an addict.

Originally posted by BPSCG Or anyone else paid to voice his or her opinion about politics, current events, and social issues?

It's the willingness to say anything. It is the over the top aspect of her comments that indicate to me that she should be in that category.

 

[Charlie Monoxide]

Being a displaced Canadian, I take no offence from what comes out of the hate spewing cake-hole of hers. I thought her 15 minutes was up a long time ago.

I guess the "no american-bashing" rule that was brought in post 9-11, is now off.

Charlie (thank-you for allowing me to share the continent) Monoxide