Coulter on Canada

[a_unique_person]

I like Ann Coulter.

She's smart, cute, informative, and very funny. She also doesn't let weasly liberals push her around.

As usual, the liberal's sense of humor is limited.

No? As soon as she saw those cream pies coming for her, she was tottering off on those high heels as fast as she could.

 

[BPSCG]

That's truly funny, in the vague and anecdotal respect that I imagine even the most incorrect, biased columns, written by whoever, tend to have a fact or two interspersed.

To avoid cherry-picking, what say we analyze her next column? Game?

Sounds like fun! Maybe we can make a poll out of it! Ten choices, in ten-percent increments of column's accuracy from 100% BS to 100% factual.

 

[hammegk]

Above is the result of a Quote from one of your posts where you misuse formatting that the Quote function provides (until you screw it up using it "correctly").

That is, Blank--nothing--nada. Will you follow jj as the second person too dumb to see the problem you cause others?



DD, why do you think your "quotes" are any more accurate than Ann's "quotes" of the conversations you cited?

 

[BPSCG]

Micheal Moore at least pretends to be an entertainer...

He does? You mean Bowling for Columbine was supposed to be entertainment, not a documentary? F911 was supposed to be entertainment, not a documentary?

If these movies were supposed to be entertainment, was Bowling a comedy? Was F911 supposed to be a drama?

 

[Dancing David]

Micheal Moore does not pretend that he is a journalist.
Your argument fails, tragedy and pathos have been the stuff of entertainment for centuries BPSG, so the fact that the material presented by MM may be humorous or tragic is part of the entertainment. I certainly would not call Moore a documentarian, more of the agitatore propagandist.
Again I don't fault Ann for being an editorialist. I fault her for pretending to be a journalist when she is an opinion editorialist.

 

[Dancing David]

posted by the HammeGK
DD, why do you think your "quotes" are any more accurate than Ann's "quotes" of the conversations you cited?

What evidences can you present that they aren't accurate? The burden is on you old bean!

(Those quotes are from David Brock's MediaMatters at MediaMatters.org, but I assume that i could find the quote directly from the Washington Post if you wish. Media Matter usually links directly to the source material that they quote. Unlike the fabrications of the darling of the right. Ann has a problem with her research, but then she does editorials.)

BTW isn't lying a moral problem, shouldn't lying by public figures be an important issue?

 

[Chaos]

Sounds like fun! Maybe we can make a poll out of it! Ten choices, in ten-percent increments of column's accuracy from 100% BS to 100% factual.

Beg your pardon, but that would be 11 (eleven) choices.

0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
70%
80%
90%
100%

You can count and recount it any way you want, it will always be 11 choices...

... unless you use Diebold equipment, of course. Then it will be 51% for Bush (SCNR)

 

[BPSCG]

Micheal Moore does not pretend that he is a journalist.
Your argument fails, tragedy and pathos have been the stuff of entertainment for centuries BPSG, so the fact that the material presented by MM may be humorous or tragic is part of the entertainment. I certainly would not call Moore a documentarian, more of the agitatore propagandist.

I think that last is a fair enough description. But I bet if you ask Moore if his purpose was primarily to entertain or to educate, he would insist the latter; his own web site goes to great pains to show how everything he says in his movies is the truth (even if it's truth twisted into unrecognizable shapes).

Again I don't fault Ann for being an editorialist. I fault her for pretending to be a journalist when she is an opinion editorialist.

When does she call herself a journalist? I agree, she's a pundit, an editorialist, not a reporter. She doesn't unearth new information, which is what a reporter does; she takes information that someone else has provided, and gives her opinions on them.

Actually, I think the best leftie equivalent of Coulter is Mollie Ivins - at once funny and venomous.

I thought women were supposed to be softer and nicer... Well, at least the ones I know fit that description.

 

[BPSCG]

You can count and recount it any way you want, it will always be 11 choices...

... unless you use Diebold equipment, of course. Then it will be 51% for Bush (SCNR)

Have a look at the poll (just don't vote until you've read her column) and you'll see it's only eleven choices by the inclusion of the Planet X option.

 

[Snide]

Fret not Kelvin, some of us are bright enough to figure out your message, regardless of how you choose to use the quote function. If you'd like, I can explain it for the dimmer members...and I'll type slowly if it helps.

 

[Chaos]

Have a look at the poll (just don't vote until you've read her column) and you'll see it's only eleven choices by the inclusion of the Planet X option.

I see. You skillfully worked around that predicament. My compliments.

 

[KelvinG]

Fret not Kelvin, some of us are bright enough to figure out your message, regardless of how you choose to use the quote function. If you'd like, I can explain it for the dimmer members...and I'll type slowly if it helps.

I think those dimmer members have figured it out to. They're just playing dumb.

 

[KelvinG]

When does she call herself a journalist? I agree, she's a pundit, an editorialist, not a reporter. She doesn't unearth new information, which is what a reporter does; she takes information that someone else has provided, and gives her opinions on them.

Exactly my point. And let's face it, if you agree with her politics, you're much more likely to find her work funny, perceptive and right on the money. If you don't, since it is so opinion based, it's unlikely you'll share the same affinity.
And of course, theres nothing Coulter says that can be countered with an effective rebuttal.
The power that people like her get (both on the left and right) is that their choir members are always quick to jump up and applaud "Oh yes, that is so true, so true." But it's only true because that's what her flock wants to hear. The same goes for Michael Moore and Mark Morford. (and Molly Ivins, who up until now I was unfamiliar with)

Actually, I think the best leftie equivalent of Coulter is Mollie Ivins - at once funny and venomous.

It's refreshing to hear someone with a conservative bent actually admit that there is a liberal commentator out there who isn't immediately dismissed as being a left wing loon. And thank you for introducing me to her column. I'm man enough to admit that my liberal bent makes me more likely to enjoy Ivins column than Coulter's. Even if that means I'm just one of the flock!

 

[BPSCG]

Originally posted by KelvinG
And of course, theres nothing Coulter says that can be countered with an effective rebuttal.

Well, that's what my poll is all about.

It's refreshing to hear someone with a conservative bent actually admit that there is a liberal commentator out there who isn't immediately dismissed as being a left wing loon. And thank you for introducing me to her column.

You're welcome, but when did I say she wasn't a left-wing loon? "Left-wing" and "loon" are synonymous terms, sir, synonymous terms.

BTW, hammegk has a point - you really do need to use the quote function more effectively - it makes more work for your correspondents to reply to something you've written when you've swallowed up an entire previous message in one quote.

 

[KelvinG]

Well, that's what my poll is all about.
You're welcome, but when did I say she wasn't a left-wing loon? "Left-wing" and "loon" are synonymous terms, sir, synonymous terms.

Heh heh Just like "right wing" and "nut job" are synonymous terms.

BTW, hammegk has a point.

Geez, you don't hear those words often on this site.

- you really do need to use the quote function more effectively - it makes more work for your correspondents to reply to something you've written when you've swallowed up an entire previous message in one quote.

Nah, I find it easier this way. I'd rather make it easier for myself than someone else. If they really want to reply to something I said, they can do a little extra work.
Myself, I actually prefer responding to posts that format in the same manner as me.

 

[hammegk]

In response to "BTW, hammegk has a point.".

Geez, you don't hear those words often on this site.

If more than a handful of the loons who post here understood the implications (of a least some of my posts) and also agreed with them, I'd conclude that my position in that instance was wrong.

Nah, I find it easier this way. I'd rather make it easier for myself than someone else. If they really want to reply to something I said, they can do a little extra work.
Myself, I actually prefer responding to posts that format in the same manner as me.

glad to hear it ... >plonk #2<


DD Are you contending that the Post is 100% accurate in its quotes of, say, a loony Dem like Brazile???

I'm really don't think you've demonstrated Ann lied. As all writers do, sometimes she gets facts wrong, but playing she said/she said with current polemic is bs.



Dear Snide Try ALL CAPS; that really wows 'em here.

 

[Snide]

Dear Snide Try ALL CAPS; that really wows 'em here. [/B]

LIAR! AND YOU KNOW IT! (oops...wrong guy...)

(sorry Shane, I know that was uncalled for)

 

[Dancing David]

posted by HammeGK

DD Are you contending that the Post is 100% accurate in its quotes of, say, a loony Dem like Brazile???

I'm really don't think you've demonstrated Ann lied. As all writers do, sometimes she gets facts wrong, but playing she said/she said with current polemic is bs.

Gosh no Hamme! I think that they are all liars!

I don't think you have demonstrated that Ann didn't distort the truth. Nyah Nyah, Nanny Boo Boo

If what she said wasn't a misrepresentation then it wouldn't be her spouting BS. She does not just get her facts wrong, she distorts them to her benefit. So where is it that you demostrate she tells the truth?

polemic? Does that make her a pole dancer?

 

[New Ager]

(BPSCG)

If these movies were supposed to be entertainment, was Bowling a comedy? Was F911 supposed to be a drama?

(New Ager)

No, F911 was a fantasy!!