could the universe began with complete zero!

to mortfurd

to mortfurd-you know the translation that you had been entering to hebrew get good result-but yes-but this translation is not so good-as i can wish
-do you know more good translation-that i could speak with other in other language in more good way????
you are right -i am speaking with german people-but in english-when i was offering them to see that in germany-with bable fish-they didnt agree at all.
:boxedin: :boxedin:
cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa
www.icarus5.com
 
cohen avshalom said:
to mortfurd-you know the translation that you had been entering to hebrew get good result-but yes-but this translation is not so good-as i can wish-do you know more good translation-that i could speak with other in other language in more good way????
you are right -i am speaking with german people-but in english-when i was offering them to see that in germany-with bable fish-they didnt agree at all.
:boxedin: :boxedin:
cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa
www.icarus5.com
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Now you know how we feel about your translations.

The site I used charges for translations. They let you make one translation per day for free.

This is the site I used:
http://www.1-800-translate.com/machine_trans/

עכשיו אתה יודע איך אנחנו מרגישים על התרגומים שלך.

האתר שאני השתמשתי בתשלומים לתרגומים. הם נותנים לך לעשות תרגום אחד ביממה חינם.
 
jmercer said:
Prior to this event, even the abstract concept of zero would be meaningless. Probably closer to say... nothing existed prior to the event.
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Depends what you mean by "nothing". Last I heard we had a singularity; but then since "prior" means nothing per se beyond the universe... bah! You know what I mean.
 
realpaladin said:
I think... that he does not like the idea of something before the big bang...
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Well, and that's one of the glaring problems here, as there is no "before" in the model. As psychologically unsatisfying as that may be for some folks, it's no cause to springboard into the realm of the non-sequitur. What came before the big bang? The steady state model... ;)

He seems to want to attribute the origin of the universe to a specific causality (and is laboring under the "something can't come from nothing" assumption), but doesn't appear to understand key concepts or terminology (e.g. that the BB doesn't presume to explain the origin of the universe, but how it changed over time; that the universe by definition is all that is, and there is nothing "outside" it; applications of thermodynamics and relativity).

I think at the very least some remedial cosmology is in order, and it's going to require a lot of reading. Unfortunately, the language barrier appears to be substantially hindering the discussion. Nevertheless, here are some good starting points.

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/writings/cosmologyprimer/
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_01.htm
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/cosmology.php
 
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Belz... said:
Depends what you mean by "nothing". Last I heard we had a singularity; but then since "prior" means nothing per se beyond the universe... bah! You know what I mean.
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Yep. I do. :)

"Prior" itself has no meaning, because time didn't exist until the event that started everything - including time. Also, there are alternative (and equally unsatisfying) ideas about branes colliding and so forth, eliminating the need for a singularity.

I get a headache just thinking about it. :D
 
mortfurd-even one for a day-free this is fine

mortfurd-even one for a day-free this is fine-maybe later i will do that with money??
 
to belz

to belz-singularity-for my is-->not given well answer for problem.
when the pattern is not matching the regular result.
when the result is hard to cope with the regular way.


cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa
icarus5-com
 
wolverine

wolverine.
you are bringing nice link for looking-that nice !!!!
but the BB-is not the open point for my-i get out from different approach.
yes i got a lot of criticism about my theory/hypothesis.
i see the criticism-and i try to improve by this note-some times the notes are oppositing each other(more easy to understand by every-one/it is note describe enough).
i am glade that people are notes my-sometimes in some forum i have not any note-and few a lot of note- people come and read what i am thinking-and the true i am happy if they read it all.
the true-i dont have any profit-from what i do -i do that because i sympathize that subject-and:" i have what to say."
all i do is without any budject.and all i have is the support,of the people in the forum-and that good.

thank you by
cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa
www.icarus5.com
 
cohen avshalom said:
to belz-singularity-for my is-->not given well answer for problem.
when the pattern is not matching the regular result.
when the result is hard to cope with the regular way.
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How well you "feel" it answers the question is irrelevant.

So far it's the best explanation we've got. It doesn't matter if your common sense can't grasp it.
 
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